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john shepherd born 1851 doncaster

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greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 17:36

An Ancestry tree has Hannah Shepherd's (nee Nuttall) death 1864 and a marriage of john to Anne Bates 1867 Sheffield.

It also shows John and Harriet's children as Alfred Bright Gamble 1820 - ?, John Gambles 1824-1879, Caroline Gambles 1826-1890, Ann Lee Gamble 1827 - ? and Selina Matilda Gambles 1833 - 1914. All christened at Sheffield
parish Church, Church Street. No proof of anything but what is on census

Louisa doesn't get a mention

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 17:31

Deaths Jun 1914 (>99%)
Shepherd Louisa 62 Sheffield 9c 795

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 17:29

Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%)
Shepherd John Henry 54 Sheffield 9c 319

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 17:26


1911 England Census about Louisa Shepherd
Name: Louisa Shepherd
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 3 H 1 Ct Steelhouse Lane Sheffield
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration District: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration District: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 27869
Household Members:
Name Age
Louisa Shepherd 60
Ernest Shepherd 25
Ada Shepherd 19

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 17:21

In 1901 he's called George!


1901 England Census about Alice Shepherd
Name: Alice Shepherd
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George H Shepherd - 1850, Doncaster
Mother's Name: Louisa Shepherd
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Sheffield St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Sheffield
Sub-registration District: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 230
Piece: 4363
Folio: 55
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
George H Shepherd 51
Louisa Shepherd 48
Charles Shepherd 17
Ernest Shepherd 15
Alice Shepherd 12
Ada Shepherd 9

Janette

Janette Report 26 Aug 2013 17:20

hi stuart i dont have a wedding certificate at the moment for john and louise.i think i might have to save and send for one
thanks

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 17:18


1891 England Census about John Hy Shepherd
Name: John Hy Shepherd
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lousia Shepherd
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holliscroft
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Sheffield
Sub-registration District: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3818
Folio: 58
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hy Shepherd 40
Lousia Shepherd 38
Herbert Shepherd 19
Mary Ann Shepherd 16
John Thos Shepherd 14
George Shepherd 11
Charles Shepherd 7
Ernest Shepherd 5
Alice Shepherd 2

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 26 Aug 2013 17:12

1881


Name: John Hy. Shepherd
Age:30
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1851
Relationship to Head:Head
Spouse:Lousia Shepherd born:Sheffield
Gender:Male
Where born:Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Sheffield
County/Island:
Yorkshire Country:England

Street Address:
2 CT 6 Ball St
Marital Status:Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation:Edge Tool Striker

Registration District:Sheffield

Sub-registration District:North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel:
15
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:4645 Folio:132 Page Number:22
Household Members:
NameAge

John Hy. Shepherd 30
Lousia Shepherd 28
Herbert Shepherd 9
Mary Ann Shepherd 6
John Thomas Shepherd 4
George Shepherd 1
John Thomas England 25

Roy

The 1891 also has him born Doncaster so wonder if his birth was registered? or did he inherit the middle name Henry? possibly when baptised

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 17:09

1871 census transcription details for: Scotland Street Court, Sheffield

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 4680
Folio: 135
Page: 14
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Sheffield, North
Parish: Sheffield
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: Scotland Street Court, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SHEPHERD, John Head M 21 1850 Yorkshire
SHEPHERD, Lousia Wife F 18 1853 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, John Boarder M 49 1822 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Ann Wife F 38 1833 Nottinghamshire
GAMBLES, Alfred Son M 15 1856 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Frederick Son M 14 1857 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Sarah Ann Daughter F 3 1868 Yorkshire

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 17:04

John and Hannah Gamble are married in 1850, but the 1861 census shows the older child as born 1854/5. Could Louisa be theirs?

Civil Registration event: Marriage

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Name: GAMBLE, John
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1850
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 22
Page no: 660
MarriageFinder: John Gamble married one of the following people:

ALLEN, Martha
NUTHALL, Hannah <<<<<<<<
OATES, Emma
FLINT, Martha
MITCHELL, Isaac
OXLEY, Henry
FOX, James

1861 census transcription details for: 7 Yard, Orchard Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 3497
Folio: 43
Page: 30
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: 5 Brightside
Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District: Pitsmoor
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: 7 Yard, Orchard Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
NUTTELL, Thomas Head Married M 55 1806 Woodsawyer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
NUTTELL, Ann Wife Married F 56 1805 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
NUTTELL, John Son Widower M 31 1830 Table Blade Grinder Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
NUTTELL, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Varnisher Sheffield, Yorkshire
GAMBLES, John Son In Law Married M 37 1824 Labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Hannah Daughter Married F 33 1828 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
GAMBLES, Alfred Grandson M 6 1855 ScholarSheffield, Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Frederick Grandson M 5 1856 Scholar Rotherham, Yorkshire
SMITH, Ann Boarder F 36 1825

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 16:58

????

Births Jun 1848 (>99%)
SHEPHERD John Henry York 23 779

EDIT: No, probably not - there are census records for (presumably) this one with parents1851 and after.

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 16:56

?? Louisa's birth Reg

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: GAMBLES, Louisa
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1852
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 208

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 16:55

Gamble / Gambles seem interchangeable.

Births Sep 1852 (>99%)
GAMBLES Louisa Ecclesall Bierlow 9c 208


Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%)
Gambles Selina Matilda Sheffield 9c 535
Mallinson Henry Sheffield 9c 535


greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 16:50

1841 census transcription details for: Granville Street, Sheffield, Sheffield Park

Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1336
Book/Folio: 1/35
Page: 26
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Sheffield Park
Parish: Sheffield
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: Granville Street, Sheffield, Sheffield Park
County: Yorkshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GAMBLES, John M 40 1801 Yorkshire <<<<<< Fender Smith
GAMBLES, Harriet F 40 1801 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, John M 15 1826 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Caroline F 15 1826 Yorkshire
GAMBLES, Selina F 5 1836 Yorkshire
HOLDING, Thomas M 45 1796 Yorkshire
HOLDING, Cathrine F 45 1796 Yorkshire
HOLDING, Ann F 5 1836

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 26 Aug 2013 16:49

If born Doncaster then this is a more likely birth for him

Births Dec 1849
SHEPHERD John Doncaster 22 80

Roy

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 16:48

??1851 census transcription details for: 28, Union Lane, Sheffield

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2340
Folio: 238
Page: 57
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Sheffield
Parish:
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: 28, Union Lane, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GAMBLE, John Head Married M 50 1801 Finder Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire
GAMBLE, Harriot Wife Married F 50 1801 Sheffield, Yorkshire
GAMBLE, John Son Married M 26 1825 Ornamental Brouser Sheffield, Yorkshire
GAMBLE, Hannah Wife Married F 22 1829 Londar, Nottinghamshire
GAMBLE, Celina Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Cabinet Case Liner Sheffield, Yorkshire
FARR, Ruben Lodger Unmarried M 32 1819 PainterRotherham, Yorkshire

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 16:47

How have you got back to John and Louisa. If you know they married, do you have the marriage certificate? If so, what are the details on it ?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 26 Aug 2013 16:45

Nurse child simply means the child was being looked after by someone other than a parent sometimes because the birth parents were unable to due to circumstances beyond their control such as mother not well enough after child birth and dad having to work, Often taken in by extended family or friends and not always for financial gain

Roy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2013 16:42

Louisa illegitimate daughter of Selina?


1861 England Census about Louisa Gamble
Name: Louisa Gamble
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Porter
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Sheffield
Sub-registration District: South Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 244
Piece: 3488
Folio: 30
Page Number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Gamble 62
Selina Mallinson 28 - married daughter
Louisa Gamble 8 - grand-daughter
Herbert Mallinson 6 - grandson
Rose Mallinson 4 - grand-daughter
Alfred Best 30 - lodger

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Aug 2013 16:38

If this is the marriage it gives John a middle name which might help in finding other records. it also gives Louisa as GambleS which may or may not be correct

Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: John Henry Shepherd married Louisa Gambles
Name: SHEPHERD, John Henry
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1870
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 259