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Can anybody help with any information regarding the Ackrill family in sheffield.
My grand mother was Phylis born 1902.

I'm looking at starting a family tree and have no other information.

1911 census

1911 census transcription details for: 20 Greenock Street Hillsbro Sheffield

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN27922 RG78PN1597 RD510 SD4 ED12 SN38
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Hillsborough
Parish: Sheffield
Enum. District: 12
Address: 20 Greenock Street Hillsbro Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DIXON, Albert Edward Head Married M 48 1863 Joiner Bradfield Yorkshire
DIXON, Selina Wife Married
24 years F 43 1868 Hitchin Herts
BERKLEY, Gotthold Ephraim Son - In - Law Married M 27 1884 Foreign Correspondent Switzerland
BERKLEY, Charlotte Ann Daughter Married F 23 1888 Bedfordshire Arlesey
BERKLEY, Nora Eileen Granddaughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Yorkshire Wadsley Sheffield
BINSTEAD, Kate Harriet Niece Single F 16 1895 Hertfordshire Hitchin
ACKRILL, Phyllis Niece F 8 1903 Yorkshire Carbrook Sheffield

birth record

Name: Phyllis Ackrill
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 683

If you order this certificate from the GRO it will give her parents names

MarriageFinder: Phyllis Ackrill married John R Benton
Name: ACKRILL, Phyllis
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1930
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Benton
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 1483
Name: BENTON, John R
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1930
Quarter of registration

It is unfortunate that she was not with her parents on the 1911 census

If you order her birth certificate from the GRO
http://www.gro.gov.uk/ £9.25 it will give you the parents names

If you can get to the records office in Sheffield you could try looking for her baptism. The census says she was born in Carbrook so you could try the nearest church

Matt - now that Linda has transfered her finds, don't forget to delete the original thread. Just delete the first post and the whole lot will disappear.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1330432

EDIT - thread has been removed

There were 2 Phyllis Ackrills born very close together. More info is needed before certificates ordered as could be the wrong one. Another 1911:

ACKRILL, Robert Head Married M 44 1867 General Labourer At Laundry Grimsby Licolnshire
ACKRILL, Harriett Wife Married 19 years F 41 1870 Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Annie Elibeth Daughter Single F 18 1893 Laundress Laundry Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, William Henry Son Single M 16 1895 Brass Turner Engineering Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Robert Son M 12 1899 School Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Phyllis Daughter F 9 1902 School Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Frank Son M 7 1904 Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Ellen Daughter F 5 1906 Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Alfred Son M 3 1908 Sheffield Yorkshire
ACKRILL, Mary Daughter F 2 1909 Sheffield Yorkshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 24276
Reference: RG14PN24276 RG78PN1392 RD467 SD5 ED23 SN192
Registration District: Prestwich
Sub District: Newton Heath
Enumeration District: 23
Parish: North Manchester

Address: 73 Droylsden Road Newton Heath Manchester County: Lancashire

This one would show as a birth year of 1902 on the 1911 census:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Phyllis Ackrill
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1901
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 686

Matt, who did your grandmother marry?

I had just picked that other family up in 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 7, Birch Road, Attercliffe Cum Darnall

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4383
Folio: 157
Page: 23
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Attercliffe
Parish: Attercliffe cum Darnall
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: Attercliffe Emmanuel
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 7, Birch Road, Attercliffe Cum Darnall
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ACKRILL, Robert Head Married M 65 1836 Bricklayer
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
ACKRILL, Annie Wife Married F 55 1846
Hull, Yorkshire
ACKRILL, William Son Single M 35 1866 Varnish Maker
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
ACKRILL, Ada Daughter Single F 19 1882
Sheffield, Yorkshire

So I suppose it could be either one?

The only Sheffield marriage I can see is the one I posted.If that is the correct marriage then buying that certificate will give her fathers name,so he would know which 1911 family is the correct one

She married John Richard Benton.
They lived in Hillsborough.

In that case you will need to buy their marriage certificate so you can know for certain who the fathers are before you go backwards

The only way not to buy it would be to visit the records office in Sheffield and to look through the church records on micro film for June to Sept 1930 assuming you could guess which church it was

Hi Matt, as you've seen from the census there are two very strong contenders and it would be very easy to follow the wrong branch.

To be sure of the right line you need Phyllis' marriage certificate to see who it names as her father. The details are posted above. You can order a copy from GRO for £9.25
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Thank you very much for your time. I will follow up accordingly.

Welcome to the boards Matt.

I am pleased we didn't scare you off with all the deleting and which board to post on.

Prickles. :-)

Is this the death of your grand mother? if it is it gives her date of birth

Name: BENTON, Phyllis
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1994
Month of registration: November
Date of birth: 30 August 1902
District no: 0481H
Reg no: H59A
Ent no: 029
DOR: 1194


In that case the birth registration would be the first one found

Name: Phyllis Ackrill
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 683

Assuming the date of birth on the burial was correct, they had 6 weeks to register the birth, so that could take it into the Oct-Dec period of 1902

This would be your grandfathers death

Name: BENTON, John Richard
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1996
Month of registration: August
Date of birth: 25 March 1902
District no: 0481G
Reg no: G52A
Ent no: 147
DOR: 896

Thank you very much. The birth was correct, so you are saying that it as the first census you provided. That she wasn't living with her parents as it states she was a niece. So as advised I need get copies of either birth or marriage certificate to ascertain parents .
Matt

As you're new poster, do you know where to get certificates from?

Although you can get them from the issuing Register Office, the only online site you should use is

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Each certificate will cost £9.25 using a debit or credit card and includes 2nd class P&P.
Use the references provided on the thread which were orriginally found on the GRO indexes.

If you purchase from Sheffield Regiter Office, they have a different system of numbering and might cost a bit more. Year, quarter and name should suffice to help them track down the correct certificate

Thanks again.