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Nottsgirl
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20 Aug 2013 18:10 |
Yes that's true, it does look they are the right ones.
Thank you for all your help.
All the best
Wendy
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20 Aug 2013 18:00 |
The census ages are all pretty consistent, so maybe she was only 16 when she married, she might have just added a couple of years on to make it look better as he was older
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Nottsgirl
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20 Aug 2013 17:39 |
Hi,
Could be them Ellen was 18y rs of aged when she married on 16 May 1853 so ages are out by 2yrs on the above census.
Wendy
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20 Aug 2013 17:30 |
1851 clearly Emma on the image, but this family is in Derby St Macclesfield
Name: Emma Kelley Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Granddaughter Mother's Name: Mary Kelley Gender: F (Female) Where born: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Macclesfield Ecclesiastical parish: Macclesfield Town: Macclesfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image Registration District: Macclesfield Sub-registration District: West Macclesfield ED, institution, or vessel: 5k Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 12 Piece: 2160 Folio: 239 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Henning 84 b Ireland Mary Kelley 46 widow silk worker b Ireland Emma Kelley 14 David Johnson 64 lodger Isaac Worthington 40 lodger
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20 Aug 2013 17:20 |
1841
Name: Ellen Kelley Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Female Where born: Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Prestbury Hundred: Macclesfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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View Image Registration District: Macclesfield Sub-registration District: West Macclesfield Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 132 Book: 5 Folio: 4 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Mary Kelley 31 mop maker b Ireland Sarah Kelley 13 b Ireland Ellen Kelley 4
Derby St, Macclesfield
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Nottsgirl
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20 Aug 2013 17:06 |
Mmmm, It does seem odd, the marriage certificate is a typed copy so maybe the person who transcribed it made a mistake (not the first time this has happened) Maybe if I could find a baptism for Ellen & Dennis, I'm going to keep an opened mind on this one.
Thank you so much for your help.
Wendy
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20 Aug 2013 16:15 |
1841 Name: Mary Kelly Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Stockport Hundred: Macclesfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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View Image Registration District: Stockport Sub-registration District: Stockport Second District Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 108 Book: 11 Folio: 9 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Michael Kelly 40 labourer Mary Kelly 30 Dennis Kelly 8 Ellen Kelly 5 Ellen Wayland 20
Swan St
Adult ages are rounded down in 1841
The father isn't Patrick though, so the 41 and 51 might not be the correct family
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Nottsgirl
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20 Aug 2013 16:05 |
Hi Maddie,
The 1851 looks like her as Ellen is with her Thank you, and V Thank you that's the one so she was with The Gollicker's then. right just need the 1841 for her
Wendy
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20 Aug 2013 16:02 |
Name: Mary Ann Kelly Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Wife's Mother (Mother-in-law) Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
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View Image Registration District: Nottingham Sub-registration District: Byron ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 41 Piece: 2461 Folio: 29 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Gollicker 26 cab driver Ellen Gollicker 23 James Gollicker 7 Mary Ann Gollicker 6 John Gollicker 1 Mary Ann Kelly 52
Harts yard goose gate Nottingham
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Maddie
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20 Aug 2013 16:00 |
not sure about this one 1851
1851 England Census about Mary Kelly Name: Mary Kelly Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Gender: F (Female) Where born: Kill, Ireland Civil Parish: Brinnington Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View Image Registration District: Stockport Sub-registration District: Stockport Second ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 11 Piece: 2157 Folio: 356 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Mary Kelly 42 Dennis Kelly 18 Ellin Kelly 14 Edmund Phelan 28
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Nottsgirl
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20 Aug 2013 16:00 |
Hi Maddie,
Sorry that's not the right one.
Wendy
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20 Aug 2013 15:53 |
, Francis Head Married M 34 1827 Provision Dealer Poland VIEW ..., Mary Ann Wife Married F 31 1830 Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW ..., Alexander Son M 2 1859 Nottingham VIEW KELLY, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 57 1804 Formerly Tailors Wife Dublin VIEW
Piece: 2465
Folio: 76
Page: 1
Registration District: Nottingham
Civil Parish: St Mary
Municipal Borough: Nottingham
Address: 3, Arkwright Street, St Mary, Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
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Nottsgirl
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20 Aug 2013 15:30 |
Hi All,
Could someone please look on the 1861 for Mary Kelly born abt 1804 Ireland living in Nottingham RG9, Piece 2461, Folio 29, Pg 6 to see who she was with. I have lost my copy of the census. Then see if you can find her on 41 & 51 census please maybe in Macclesfield area. I know she had a daughter Ellen born 1835 Macclesfield who married John Gollicker in 1853. Ellen's father was said to be Patrick Kelly (Kelley).
Thank you
Wendy
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