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Jean
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19 Aug 2013 20:42 |
Charles Taylor was born in Stockton, Durham, England in 1893 - understand he married a scottish woman (sometime between the age of about 25 years upward) and had two children (possibly twins) but the relationship failed - Charles moving to Middlesbrough, England. CharlesTaylor's parents were Charles John Taylor and Emma Taylor (nee Love). Unfortunately, I have no more info which could help. Thought I may as well put this forward, in case there is a family with this background. One never knows!
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Kucinta
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19 Aug 2013 21:05 |
is this the family in 1911?
Address: 125 Union St Middlesbrough County: Yorkshire (North riding)
TAYLOR, Charles J Married M 43 1868 Laberor Born Leamhabour Durham TAYLOR, Emma Married 24 years F 41 1870 Town Not Known Norfolk TAYLOR, Charles Single M 18 1893 Laberor Durham Stockton<<<<<< TAYLOR, Eva Single F 15 1896 Durham Stockton TAYLOR, Richard B Single M 13 1898 Durham Stockton TAYLOR, Walter Single M 10 1901 Durham Stockton TAYLOR, Gladys M Single F 4 1907 Yorks Middlesbrough
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Andrew
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19 Aug 2013 21:29 |
He appears in quite a few trees on Ancestry. None have a spouse, but two of them have this has his death. No other info.
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Charles Taylor
Name:Charles Taylor Birth Place:Durham Death Date:20 Apr 1916 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Sunderland Rank:L/Corporal Regiment:Durham Light Infantry Battalion:2nd Battalion Number:8800 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre
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19 Aug 2013 23:21 |
???
1901 England Census about Charles Taylor Name: Charles Taylor Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation: Son Father's Name: John C Taylor Mother's Name: Emma Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Stockton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Stockton on Tees Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Stockton on Tees County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Stockton Sub-registration District: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 7 Piece: 4626 Folio: 33 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age John C Taylor 32 Emma Taylor 30 Margaret L Taylor 14 Lucy Taylor 12 William Taylor 10 Charles Taylor 8 Eva Taylor 5 Richard B Taylor 3 Walter Taylor 1 Month
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Catherine
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20 Aug 2013 09:08 |
Military record looks not to be him as this is him:-
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Charles Taylor Name: Charles Taylor Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Age at enlistment: 19 Birth Parish: Stockton Birth County: Durham Document Year: 1911 Regimental Number: 66619 Regiment Name: Royal Field Artillery Number of images: 9
..........and regiment number does not match.
States father's name as Charles John mother's name as Emma
Address:- 125 Union Street Middlesbrough
Brother William (address:- 68 Monkland Street, Middlesbrough) Brother Richard (same address as parents) Brother Walter (same address as parents)
Wife's name:- Agnes Marion Hannay Married:- 7/10/1912 in Edinburgh
Children:- Charles born 14/4/1913 in Edinburgh
He signed up on the 25/08/1911 in Middlesbrough
Served at Home from 25/08/1911 to 08/10/1912 Served in India from 09/10/1912 to 12/10/1914 Served in France from 13/10/1914 to 05/07/1915 Served at Home from 06/07/1915 to 23/10/1915 Served in France from 24/10/1915 to 27/01/1919 Served at Home from 28/01/1919 to 24/02/1919
Discharged on 24/02/1919
Also states that he was educated at:- Duke of York's Royal Military School Royal Hibernian Military School Queen Victoria School Industrial School under Home Office or Local Government Board
Army School:- 3rd Class at Edinburgh 22/03/1912
which would explain how he met his wife!
So ancestry trees look to be incorrect.
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2013 09:24 |
What are you hoping for, Jean?
If you hope for connections on GR, make sure your tree is on the site..............and look in 'search all trees' for the names you have listed
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2013 09:26 |
1881 census
Person: LOVE, Emma Address: 9, Crisp St, Stockton Upon Tees
LOVE, James Head Married M 46 1835 Gen Lab Stretham, Norfolk VIEW LOVE, Lucy Wife Married F 44 1837 Lymm, Norfolk VIEW LOVE, James Son Single M 20 1861 Potter Lymm, Norfolk VIEW LOVE, Alfred Son Single M 15 1866 Potter Lymm, Norfolk VIEW LOVE, Ellis Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Lymm, Norfolk VIEW LOVE, Emma Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Lymm, Norfolk VIEW LOVE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Stockton, Durham VIEW LOVE, Clara Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Stockton, Durham VIEW LOVE, Priscilla Daughter Single F 3 1878 Stockton, Durham
Emma is in GR trees...............................but not in yours, as far as I can see
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Catherine
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20 Aug 2013 09:48 |
Military record also states (on another page) :-
Next of Kin :- Wife Agnes Address:- c/o Mrs Hannay, 71 Renfrew Street, Glasgow
Marriage:- Agnes Marion Gardner Hannay (Spinster) Date:- 07/10/1918 - Which is same day and year as on other page, but not same year? Witness:- J.A.B. Hannay and R. Fiddes
It is also marked - without leave S/A stopped 15/11/1917
So not sure what that would mean?
Scotlands people does show the birth of an Agnes Marion Hannay in 1894 but it is pay to view so you will need to join their site to have a look unfortunately.
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Catherine
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20 Aug 2013 10:24 |
There is this on ancestry, which may be her?
1901 Scotland Census about Agnes Hannay Name: Agnes Hannay Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: John W Hannay Mother's Name: Jean Hannay Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration number: 560B Registration District: Cathcart Burgh Civil Parish: Cathcart County: Renfrewshire Address: 102 Ledard Road Occupation: Scholar ED: 27 Household Schedule Number: 133 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1901_190 Household Members: Name Age John W Hannay 33 Jean Hannay 34 Agnes Hannay 8 Maggie Hannay 5 Jean Hannay 1
................but here again to view family in 1911 you will have to join scotlands people!
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Catherine
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20 Aug 2013 10:34 |
As her name is given as Agnes Marion Gardner Hannay, then this is more likely to be her:-
1901 Scotland Census about Agnes M G Hannah Name: Agnes M G Hannah Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's Name: Andrew Hannah Mother's Name: Christina Hannah Gender: Female Where born: Helensburgh, Dumbartonshire Registration number: 685/3 Registration District: Canongate Civil Parish: Edinburgh Lady Yesters County: Midlothian Address: West Block 41 Waverley Bdgs Occupation: Scholar ED: 104 Household Schedule Number: 89 Line: 22 Roll: CSSCT1901_381 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Hannah 43 Where born: Edinr, Mid Lo (bootmaker) Christina Hannah 43 born: spittalrigg, Haddingtonshire John F Hannah 17 born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire James A B Hannah 14 born: Edinr, Mid Lo Margaret M E Hannah 11 Archibald T B Hannah 8 Agnes M G Hannah 7 Ellen H Hannah 3
Living in Edinburgh so a very good contender!
Also has a brother J.A.B. Hannay who would be the witness at her marriage so this does look to be her.
According to James' military records, he went on to marry a (looks like) Robina Fiddes, who is probably the other witness at her marriage.
So, it would seem she was born: Helensburgh, Dumbartonshire
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Catherine
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20 Aug 2013 12:22 |
This would probably be relevant to above family:-
Andrew Hannay dans la saisie pour Archibald Thomas Bathgate Hannay, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950" Nom: Archibald Thomas Bathgate Hannay Sexe: Male Date du baptême: Lieu du baptême: Date de naissance: 26 Sep 1891 Lieu de naissance: Row, Dumbarton, Scotland Date de décès: Remarque de nom: Race: Nom du père: Andrew Hannay Lieu de naissance du père: Âge du père: Nom de la mère: Christina Bathgate Dickson Hannay Lieu de naissance de la mère: Âge de la mère: Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: C01904-4 Origine du système: Scotland-EASy Numéro de film: 255119
(sorry having problems with computer so a bit slow today)
and possible birth for father:-
Andrew Hannah, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950" Nom: Andrew Hannah Sexe: Male Date de naissance: 03 Jul 1858 Lieu de naissance: EDINBURGH PARISH,EDINBURGH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
Nom du père: John Hannah
Nom de la mère: Margaret Mc Clarie Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: C11685-1 Origine du système: Scotland-ODM Numéro de film: 6035516
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Cynthia
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20 Aug 2013 14:20 |
Hello Jean and welcome to the Community Boards :-)
As Jean is a new poster, I'll send a friendly message on how to return to her thead :-)
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Tenerife Sun
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20 Aug 2013 18:33 |
Brilliant work Catherine :-D
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Catherine
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20 Aug 2013 19:50 |
Thank you Tenerife Sun, always nice to get a good result. :-D
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Jean
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21 Aug 2013 10:43 |
Just want to say thank you for so much help - so much information - and now I hope I can take things further - possibly find some relatives living today, descended from Charles and Agnes?
Thank you Jean
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2013 10:48 |
Look in 'search all trees', as advised earlier
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