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jerseylily
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13 Aug 2013 21:14 |
I don't have access to any sites with Australian records but am trying to find the travel and death details of John Hansford who travelled to Australia (Brisbane I think) in the 1870's. I think I have found his death 29/9/1876 on the Queensland BDM site. He was born c1804.
Also the same for his wife Julia née Goillon who he married in Jersey in 1828. I know I've got her death date from the above site (the maiden name helped a lot) 12/8/1876 but wouldn't mind a bit more - obituary? burial?
A large part of their family seem to have arrived 1/1/1875 on the Gauntlet but I'm not seeing them.
Any help would be much appreciated
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Sylvia
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13 Aug 2013 22:21 |
This is the family in 1871 1871 Channel Islands Census about Julia Hansford Name: Julia Hansford Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Hansford Gender: Female Where born: St. Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Civil Parish: St Helier Town: District of Mont Cochon County/Island: Jersey Country: Channel Islands Street Address:
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View Image Registration District: Jersey Sub-registration District: E ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 71 Piece: 5759 Folio: 103 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Hansford 67 Julia Hansford 65 View Original Record
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Sylvia
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13 Aug 2013 22:25 |
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Julia Hansford Name: Julia Hansford Death Date: 12 Aug 1876 Death Place: Queensland Father's Name: James Goillon Mother's Name: Jane Marrette Registration Year: 1876 Registration Place: Queensland Registration number: 000075 Page Number: 6100
Julias death
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Sylvia
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13 Aug 2013 22:32 |
Could this be John
alia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912 about John Hansford Name: John Hansford Ship Name: Gauntlet Port of Departure: Belfast, Ireland Arrival Date: 3 Jan 1875
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Sylvia
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13 Aug 2013 22:33 |
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about John Hansford Name: John Hansford Death Date: 22 Sep 1875 Death Place: Queensland Father's Name: William Hansford Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wareham Registration Year: 1875 Registration Place: Queensland Registration number: 001650 Page Number: 6100
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13 Aug 2013 22:34 |
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about John Hansford Name: John Hansford Death Date: 22 Sep 1875 Death Place: Queensland Father's Name: William Hansford Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wareham Registration Year: 1875 Registration Place: Queensland Registration number: 001650 Page Number: 6100
Not sure if this is your John Hansford
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GlasgowLass
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13 Aug 2013 22:47 |
Looking at the Hansford party who arrived on Gauntlet in 1875. I wonder if John and Julia ARE the parents, entered with the wrong ages?
Have you positively identified the people called John and Julia on this ship?
It's possible that Julia, daughter of John and Julia married James Bridgeland and remained in the UK, with her brother Thomas Nor can I find any trace of a younger Julia in Queensland after this arrival. Most of the others can be identified from their deaths in Queensland
PASSENGER LISTS
DEPARTURE: London, England ARRIVAL: 1 Jan 1875 - Maryborough
NAME: John Hansford *** BIRTH: abt 1842 NAME: Julia Hansford*** BIRTH: abt 1843
NAME: George Hansford BIRTH: abt 1842
NAME: Selma Hansford ( Selina) BIRTH: abt 1844
NAME: Jane Hansford BIRTH: abt 1849
NAME: Maloe Hansford BIRTH: abt 1867
NAME: Constance Hansford BIRTH: abt 1868
NAME: Violet Hansford
Edit: I cannot locate a death for a younger John Hansford either ...which may prove that John and Julia are entered with the wrong age on immigration.
1871 Channel Islands Census about Julia Hansford Name: Julia Hansford Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Hansford Gender: Female Where born: St. Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Civil Parish: St Helier Town: District of Mont Cochon County/Island: Jersey Country: Channel Islands Street Address: Registration District: Jersey Sub-registration District: E ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 71 Piece: 5759 Folio: 103 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Hansford 67 Julia Hansford 65
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Sylvia
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13 Aug 2013 22:47 |
, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912 about Julia Hansford Name: Julia Hansford Ship Name: Gauntlet Port of Departure: Belfast, Ireland Arrival Date: 3 Jan 1875
Hope this has helped
Sylvia
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jerseylily
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14 Aug 2013 00:55 |
I had seen John and Julia on the passenger list and wondered if their ages had been transcribed wrongly. I don't know about John but Julia was baptized in Jersey 23/10/1805, her parents were Jacques Goillon and Jeanne, so not the same as on the death record but then she wasn't around to tell them if they'd got it wrong.
John and Julia did have children John and Julia, John baptized 1829 and Julia 1832.
Do Australian death records give ages at death?
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Gee
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14 Aug 2013 07:56 |
Did they have another child?
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name:William Hansford
Death Date:28 Jul 1924
Death Place:Queensland
Father's Name:John Hansford
Mother's Name:Julia Gillon
Registration Year:1924
Registration Place:Queensland
Registration number:002836 Page Number:666
Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
Name:William Hansford
Age:23
Birth Year:abt 1840
Place of Origin:Jersey, Channel Islands
Ship Name:Sunda
Port of Departure:Plymouth, England
Port of Arrival:Brisbane
Arrival Date:1863
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Chris Ho :)
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14 Aug 2013 09:09 |
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HANSFORD/2005-08/1123792220
(above seems to have mention, if any help!)
Chris :)
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jerseylily
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14 Aug 2013 09:30 |
Thank you Chris that's interesting.
Daughter Julia married a James Bridgland (second marriage) and in 1871 she is living in Brighton. She also appears in all UK censuses up until 1911 and dies in London in 1918.
This seems to support the theory that she was not the Julia who went to Queensland
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Chris Ho :)
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14 Aug 2013 20:18 |
1911 ALLEN, Florence Matilda Head Married F 55 1856 Private Means Jersey BRIDGLAND, Julia Mother Widow F 78 1833 Private Means Jersey ALLEN, Vera Constanse Daughter Single F 20 1891 Secretary London Brixton ALLEN, May Gladys Daughter F 17 1894 Part Student London Brixton SMEETON, Frank Edward Visitor M 42 1869 Ship Steward Huddersfield RG number: RG14 Piece: 2102 Reference: RG14PN2102 RG78PN73 RD25 SD5 ED3 SN263 Registration District: Lambeth Sub District: Norwood Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Lambeth Address: 47 Lambert Road Brixton Hill London S W County: London
(saw below, if any use!)
Name: Julia Bridgland Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1918 Burial Date: 20 Feb 1918 Age: 86 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Bishop's Transcript (abode as, 33, Park Court Mansions, Clapham)
Chris :)
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Kelly
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7 Nov 2013 21:30 |
Hi all... Here is a few free site to find the Hansford (or any other)
TROVE online newspapers - the Aust govt kindly put all (as many) historical newspapers online.. follow your relatives via article/bdm notices.. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
QLD archives - there was a William Hansford applying for land in 1868 http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/ItemSearchResults.aspx
Also in QLD archives they have add originals of passenger list. Find them in Index> Immigration> assisted http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Pages/Redirects.aspx
And another good one is the Brisbane Council grave search. Not all cemeteries are listed.. but you might get lucky http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/community/community-support/funeral-planning-and-grave-search/grave-location-search/index.htm
Hope these help.. Cheers Kelly
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