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ta very much
sleep well
maddie

glares at Malcolm.......

...and I still want Gin's teeth.

Maddie,
my eyesight is shutting down for today.

Nice thread and I know the others (count 'em)
will help.

Maureen

but i ran out of digits :-(

Maddie - there are three sorts of people - those who can count, and those who can't.

sorry no
according to 1930 census he is John R, not found his birth on family search
born 1924

can't count sorry one for each of you
Maddie ;-) ;-) ;-)

Both of us? :-D ;-)

May I pick the best parts from Gins and MC to make one?

Sorry-just kidding.

Any idea what the R in John's name stands for?

Maureen

oh bless him
any luck on Samuel
thanks so much both of you
Maddie

OK, I've amended my typo. Humph.

Yes, I really do think Gordon's enumerated twice. There definitely seems to just have been the one birth for that name (when I first saw two 1930 census records I initially assumed two different men).

This is the other recorded (I've deleted the 100 or so other patients!)

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Gordon E Patchett
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Home in 1930: Medfield, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Map of Home: View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Patient
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts

Household Members:
Gordon E Patchett 20

He's in the Medfield State Hospital.

I think the lack of a Social Security death record for him indicates the poor chap was possibly never registered for a number if unable to work through ill health.

Looks like John R moved around quite a bit:

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1
Name: John R Patchett
Birth Date: 30 Mar 1924
Address: 424 Stratford CT, Del Mar, CA, 92014-2755 (1988)
[2035 Edgewood Dr, South Pasadena, CA, 91030-3919 (1970)]
[4050 Wilshire Bv, Los Angeles, CA, 90010]

This other record shows the Arizona connection:

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1
Name: John R Patchett
Birth Date: 30 Mar 1924
Phone Number: 282-2419
Address: 424 Stratford CT, Del Mar, CA, 92014-2755 (1988)
[220 Shadow Mountain Dr, Sedona, AZ, 86336-3406 (1990)]
[2035 Edgewood Dr, South Pasadena, CA, 91030-3919]

That's exactly what I was thinking Mo

MC- do you think Gordon was enumerated twice?

Maureen

EDIT: OK...I was away for a bit there, !830??

how did you find that clever thing :-) :-)
Maddie

This looks like John R's death:

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Name: John R. Patchett
Last Residence: 86336 Sedona, Coconino, Arizona
Born: 30 Mar 1924
Died: 9 Sep 2005
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

guess it could be,
seems he was there in 1935 if i read it correctly
maddie

I'm starting to think that those census records DO relate to the same person. Maybe he was a long term in-patient but his family recorded him as part of the family on the 1930?


EDIT: OK, I've amended 1830 to 1930 (now that would have been a really long hospital stay).

This is the correct Gordon Edward with his parents in 1930:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Gordon E Patchett
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Home in 1930: Winthrop, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Map of Home: View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Samuel C Patchett
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's Name: Grace S Patchett
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts

Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel C Patchett 50
Grace S Patchett 49
Gordon E Patchett 20 - No occupation
John R Patchett 6

The other Gordon E is in hospital in 1930 so that 1940 census seems to be for the other one.

Just establishing Gordon's birthplace:

Massachusetts, Birth Records, 1840-1915

Name: Gordon Edward Patchett
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1909
Birth Place: Somerville, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Samuel C Patchett - Railway Clerk
Mother: Grace Shurtleff
Lived 32 Milton Street, Somerville.

Seems Gordon was sick


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_State_Hospital_(Massachusetts)