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28 Jul 2013 20:32 |
Hi, I am new to this website and trying to find my way about ! I am trying to find any info on Cecil George Wainwright born Leicester 1901, who is the brother of my late mother Gladys bertha wainwright born in Manchester 07/08/1906 . their mother Florence wainwright , later known as Florence Harrop was born in leceister around 1883-1888. Her death was December 1967 . I remember as a child Florence (my grandmother ) lived and worked in Blackpool.
Many thanks for any info Daffy ,
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28 Jul 2013 20:48 |
Although this isn't what you are looking for, this might be Florence's marriage
Name: Florence Kate Harrold Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1901 Registration District: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume Number: 7a Page Number: 554 Records on Page: Name Edith Faulks Florence Kate Harrold >>>>>John Robert Wainwright Frederick Watts
And her birth Name: Florence Kate Harrold Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1880 Registration District: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 231
Cecil was born in 1902 CECIL GEORGE Last Name WAINWRIGHT Birth Year 1902 Country England County Leicestershire Event Quarter 4 District LEICESTER Volume 7A Page 235
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ErikaH
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28 Jul 2013 20:53 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1328750
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28 Jul 2013 20:55 |
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28 Jul 2013 21:17 |
As he appears as Cecil George in 1911
Alfred Warren 41 Florence Kate Wainwright 31 Cicil George Wainwright 10 Gladys Wainwright 5
wondering if this is him ...
Cecil George Wainwright Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
I'm not able to view the details
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28 Jul 2013 21:21 |
There's a photo on Ancestry of a George Wainwright taken in Blackpool 1950
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28 Jul 2013 22:45 |
There was another Cecil George Wainwright born in Australia - the ACI is probably him
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 09:30 |
Death
NOTE..........................NO second forename Name: HARROP, Florence Registration district: Fylde County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1967 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death:84 Volume no: 10C Page no: 284
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 10:32 |
Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%) Harrop George P Wainwright Fylde 8e 1165 Harrop George P Sherlock Fylde 8e 1165 Wainwright Florence Harrop Fylde 8e 1165 Sherlock Florence Harrop Fylde 8e 116b
Some serious re-thinking may be in order..........................
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 10:34 |
Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%) SHERLOCK Florence Barton I 8c 1131 WAINWRIGHT Edgar Wallace Barton I. 8c 1131
I suspect that daffy has based her 'info' on the postings on the other thread.
I don't, in all honesty, think she knows it from her own experience, with the exception of the death in 1967
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 10:35 |
Daffy
You really need your mother's birth cert - for factual info
I don't think you have any..........apart from the death of Florence
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29 Jul 2013 10:36 |
1911 census
Person: WAINWRIGHT, Edgar Wallace Address: 24 Fountain Lane Oldbury
LONGSON, James Henry Head Married M 62 1849 Frame Fitter Rly Carriage Lanc Ashton Lyn VIEW LONGSON, Julia Amelia Wife Married14 years F 38 1873 Birmingham VIEW LONGSON, James Son M 9 1902 School VIEW LONGSON, George Son M 4 1907 VIEW WAINWRIGHT, Edgar Wallace Boarder Married M 31 1880 Labourer General Yorks Halifax VIEW WAINWRIGHT, Clifford Cedric Son M 7 1904 School Lancs Stretford VIEW WAINWRIGHT, Gordon Collings Son M 2 1909 Lancs Moss Side
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 10:44 |
1911 census
Person: HARROP, George Percy Address: 77 Reads Road Blackpool
HARROP, George Henry Head Married M 56 1855 General Manager Oldham Lancashire VIEW HARROP, Frances Ann Wife Married34 years F 56 1855 Oldham Lancashire VIEW HARROP, Thomas William Son Single M 33 1878 Bank Clerk Oldham Lancashire VIEW HARROP, George Percy Son Single M 31 1880 Acting Manager Oldham Lancashire VIEW HARROP, Ethel Mary Daughter Single F 28 1883 Oldham Lancashire VIEW WILLIAMS, Sarah Jane Servant Single F 34 1877 Housemaid Ruthin Debigshire
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29 Jul 2013 10:47 |
Births Dec 1883 (>99%) SHERLOCK Florence Barton I. 8c 619
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1891 census
Person: SHERLOCK, Florence Address: 7, Barton Road, Stretford SHERLOCK, Samuel Head Married M 39 1852 Potatoe & Hamper Merchant Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Martha Wife Married F 32 1859 Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, John Son M 14 1877 Scholar Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Florence Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Bertha Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Hilda Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar Stretford, Lancashire
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Person: SHERLOCK, Florence Address: 80, Urmston Lane, Stretford
SHERLOCK, Samuel Head Married M 49 1852 Potato Salesman Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Martha Wife Married F 42 1859 Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, John Son Single M 23 1878 Potato Salesman Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1884 Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Bertha Daughter Single F 14 1887 Dressmaker's Apprentice Stretford, Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Hilda Daughter Single F 13 1888 Stretford, Lancashire
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 10:56 |
QED
1911 census
Person: SHERLOCK, Samuel Address: 110 Jackson St Stretford
SHERLOCK, Samuel Head Widower M 59 1852 Salesman Of Garder Produce Stretford Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Bertha Daughter Single F 24 1887 House Keeper Stretford Lancashire VIEW SHERLOCK, Hilda Daughter Single F 23 1888 Stretford Lancashire VIEW WAINWRIGTH, Gladys Granddaughter F 4 1907 Stretford Lancashire
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daffy
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29 Jul 2013 13:21 |
Dear Reggie,
Thank you so much for all the info . I was never told much about my mothers past when I was young ,the info you have kindly found have rung bells and brought names to mind . she did live with her grandfather and aunties in Stretford . I have no living relatives to find out any info and as I am not getting any younger myself I thought I would look into it . Thank you once again , Daffy ------- Sue .
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Dea
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29 Jul 2013 13:26 |
Hi Sue - Glad that you are back because it seems that we have two Florence's, both marrying a Wainwright and probably both producing a Gladys at around the same time in the same area.
We need to sort out which one is your's.
Can you tell us please what actual 'facts' you knew before you started on this search please?
Dea x
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2013 13:34 |
The one 'fact' is Florence's death................and the info I posted relates to the woman who died in 1967.......and her marriages etc.
............the references to the Leicestershire family came about as a result of info posted on the thread added by the person who was looking on Sue's behalf, and whose message was much less clear than Sue's.
Sue was obviously given that info by the other person...............hence the wording of the OP on here
The Florence in Leics had a second forename....Sue's grandmother did not
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Dea
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29 Jul 2013 13:51 |
SO, Sue's grandmother did not have a brother called Cecil George then ??
Dea x
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29 Jul 2013 14:24 |
No, she didn't
Most of the data in the OP on here is based on a false premise.............
The other person passed the info from her thread to Sue...........................and Sue repeated it.
Had Cecil been in any way relevant, it would have been as Sue's uncle......................but her mother's brothers are shown with their father in 1911 in Staffordshire
Her grandmother has not so far been traced in 1911, but her mother now has, and finding her was the original reason for this post (and the other one)
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