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28 Jul 2013 06:48 |
I'm trying to find more information on my great grand father, William Cornwell born in 1851 in South Hornsey, Middlesex, England. He married Eliza Lawes. I'm unable to go further back than those 2 people and would love information on their parents or anything relevant to them. Thanks The Dragon.
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28 Jul 2013 06:56 |
1881? for info
William Cornwell Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Cornwell Gender: Male Where born: South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 32 Arthingworth St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Traveller (Paper Bags) Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1719 Folio: 15 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age William Cornwell 28 Eliza Cornwell 28 Jane Cornwell 5 Harriett Cornwell 3 Mary Ann Cornwell 2
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28 Jul 2013 06:58 |
William Cornwell (paperbag maker) Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Eliza Lawes Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 19 Jan 1875 Parish: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Father Name: William Cornwell (paperbag maker) Spouse Father Name: Thomas Lawes Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses Thos & Eliza Lawes. Add for both 8 Old Pancras.
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28 Jul 2013 07:19 |
One that can be eliminated, his father was a licenced vitular and William is back with him in 1881 - just posting to eliminate him. Not seeing your William prior to 1881 at the moment.
William Cornwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1851 Father's Name: William Cornwell Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cornwell Parish or Poor Law Union: Harrow St Mary Borough: Harrow Register Type: Parish Registers
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28 Jul 2013 07:39 |
1891, but there are some discrepancies with the children - wonder if Mary Ann from 1881 census died and a later child also given that name?
Eliza Cornwell Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Cornwell Gender: Female Where born: Piccadilly, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1328 Folio: 127 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Cornwell 39 (commercial traveller) Eliza Cornwell 39 Harriet Cornwell 13 Esther Cornwell 9 Mary Ann Cornwell 7 William Cornwell 6 Eleanor C Cornwell 4
No sign of William in 1901, but Eliza still states married:
Ellen Cornwall Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Eliza Jane Cornwall Gender: Female Where born: Stamford Hill, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: Plaistow ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 245 Piece: 1570 Folio: 168 Page Number: 44 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Jane Cornwall 52 Mary Ann Cornwall 18 William T Cornwall 16 Ellen Cornwall 14
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28 Jul 2013 07:55 |
Harriet Esther Cornwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 13 Feb 1878 Father's Name: William George Cornwell Mother's Name: Eliza Jane Cornwell Parish or Poor Law Union: Dalston St Mark Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
This baptism is giving middle names for them all. Father is paper bag maker, add 92 Shacklewell Lane.
Looked back at the marriage image, her father's occupation looks like gentleman, but not sure as writing is bad.
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28 Jul 2013 08:20 |
CORNWELL ELIZA JANE Burial date 22 May 1924 London Borough of Newham West Ham Cemetery
Deaths Jun 1924 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- Cornwall Eliza J 74 W.Ham 4a 198
(if above fits anywhere, from below)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
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28 Jul 2013 08:41 |
The image is badly damaged, but the occupation of father is paper bag maker:
Jane Mary Cornwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 28 May 1876 Father's Name: Cornwell (first name unreadable, second name George) Mother's Name: George Eliza Cornwell (should just be Eliza Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
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28 Jul 2013 08:49 |
First child. The page has a big stain on it so it is hard to read and they have the father down as George but you can see it was William George and Eliza Jane Cornwell and he is a Paper bag maker.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Jane Mary Cornwell Name: Jane Mary Cornwell Record Type: Baptism
BORN 1 MAY******************************************** Baptism Date: 28 May 1876 Father's Name: Cornwell Mother's Name: George Eliza Cornwell******** Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
Address looks like 70 Bay Lane Street
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28 Jul 2013 08:51 |
Snap Flip :-D
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28 Jul 2013 08:54 |
According to a tree on Acestry........
Eliza Lawes parents are.....
Thomas Lawes born 28th July 1822 St Andrew, Holborn, Middlesex
Charlotte Cornwell 1814 London Middlesex
The tree has a photo of Eliza and her husband William George Cornwell
You can check out the tree on Ancestry's sister site here.......
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mundia&hl=en&sourceid=gd&rlz=1Q1GPEA_enGB333GB333&aq=t
Tree owner........chrissd2006
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28 Jul 2013 08:55 |
Snap to you too Mel!
Have had absolutly no luck finding either William or Eliza prior to their marriage though - was trying to find them with their families.
Can also eliminate the 1933 West Ham death for William - there is probate naming 2 sons, and they are on the 1911 census.
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28 Jul 2013 09:00 |
This apparently is Eliza in the 1861 and 1871 census........
1871 England Census about Eliza Cornwell Name: Eliza Cornwell Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Wapping, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Paul Covent Garden Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Covent Garden County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Strand Sub-registration District: St Mary le Strand ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 125 Piece: 362 Folio: 73 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Edwards 36 Charlotte Edwards 30 Edwin Elliott Edwards 7 Jane Edwards 5 George Edwards 4 Emmeline Edwards 1 Eliza Cornwell 17 Mary Ann Thompson 20 Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%) CORNWELL Charlotte W. Ham 4a 8 EDWARDS Edwin W. Ham 4a 8
1861 England Census about Eliza Cornwell Name: Eliza Cornwell Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Charlotte Cornwell Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Gate County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 39 Piece: 1057 Folio: 166 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Cornwell 47 (Wife of Head) Married Ann Cornwell 9 Eliza Cornwell 7 Ann Pritchard 62 (Housekeeper) Mary A Barton 13 (Servant)
I am wondering if Charlotte was actually Thomas Lawes mistress?
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28 Jul 2013 09:07 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Thomas Lawes Name: Thomas Lawes Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1822 Born: 28th July 1822 Father's Name: Edward Hobson Vitruvins Lawes (Barrister) Mother's Name: Jane Edwards Lawes Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
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28 Jul 2013 09:09 |
That's a possibility PH - he was listed as gentleman on the marriage certificate!
According to another tree, daughter Esther Emily married in 1903 to Thamas Whitham, they both died in Adelaide Australia - but they obviously have a copy of the marriage cert and it states William was deceased.
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28 Jul 2013 09:16 |
London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Edward Hobson Vitruvias Lawes Name: Edward Hobson Vitruvias Lawes Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1782 Parish: St Dunstan in the West County: London Borough: City of London Parent(s): Edward Lawes, Frances Lawes Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
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28 Jul 2013 09:18 |
London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Edward Hobson Vitonoms Lowas Name: Edward Hobson Vitonoms Lowas Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1849 Burial Date: 4 Dec 1849 Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras St James Borough: Camden Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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28 Jul 2013 09:21 |
Possible for William's death (age 50)
Burial Register summary last name CORNWELL first names WILLIAM Burial date 23 May 1902 Authority London Borough of Newham Location West Ham Cemetery (Newham)
1 other person in same grave, but I don't have credits for the site posted earlier by Chris.
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28 Jul 2013 09:21 |
1911 SHERRY, George Head Married M 24 1887 Carman Limehouse London SHERRY, Ella Wife Married4 years F 24 1887 Straford Mill CORNWALL, Eliza Boarder Widow F 63 1848 West London RG number: RG14 Piece: 9505 Reference: RG14PN9505 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED35 SN281 Registration District: West Ham Sub District: Canning Town Enumeration District: 35 Parish: West Ham Address: 54 Burnham St Victoria Docks London E County: Essex
Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Cornwall Eleanor Constance Mile End 1c 604 Sherry George Edward Mile End 1c 604
Chris :)
Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------- Cornwall William 50 W. Ham 4a 135
CORNWELL WILLIAM Burial date 23 May 1902 London Borough of Newham Location West Ham Cemetery
(from link posted earlier)
edits (sorry Flip, just see your posting!)
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28 Jul 2013 09:24 |
Flip I had a look for Eliza and found one with a mother Mary Ann Lawes who was living with her parents. As they had a child or two by the name of Mary Ann I was wondering if this was her mother. Can't find her with a hubby though.
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