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c1870 Marriage Stanley Wakefield WR Yorks

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kira112

kira112 Report 26 Jul 2013 17:52

I have looked on freebmd but no matches please could anyone help me with this
I am looking for the marriage of John S Atkinson bc1849 to Emma ? bc1851 their first child born c1871 All born Stanley Wakefield I have Census info

K

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 26 Jul 2013 18:09

Do you know what Johns middle name was.

Chris

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 18:09

If you get the birth certificate of one of the children it will have the mother's maiden name on it, which will help in finding/confirming a marriage if you are having problems.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 26 Jul 2013 18:09

???????
Marriages Jun 1864

Atkinson John ...Wakefield 9c 36 <<<<<<<<????????
Atkinson Sarah Wakefield 9c 36
Higgin Charles Hartley Wakefield 9c 36
Rawling Emma ...Wakefield 9c 36 <<<<<<<<<???????

Middle names are not always used at marriage.

Do you have census information where they are in the same household as any of Emma's family.
Do you have birth certificates for any of their children?

Gwyn

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 18:15

Are John and Emma together in 1871, and what is the name of their first child?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 18:16

Gwyn,
Emma born in 1851??

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 18:18

Just for ref:
1881 England Census
John S. Atkinson Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Atkinson
Gender: Male Where born: Stanley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Street Address: B Boat
Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: C Miner
Registration District: Wakefield Sub-registration District: Stanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 4574 Folio: 114 Page Number: 51
John S. Atkinson 32
Emma Atkinson 30
Ada Atkinson 10
Henry Atkinson 8
Ann E. Atkinson 6
Polly Atkinson 4
Thos. Atkinson 2
Herbert Atkinson
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4574; Folio: 114; Page: 51; GSU roll: 1342103.

kira112

kira112 Report 26 Jul 2013 18:22

1881 census John is 32yrs b1849 Emma is 30 Daughter Ada is 10yrs info from Census & his sons Marriage Reg

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 26 Jul 2013 18:24

1871??

ATKINSON, John Address: Green Hill, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Wakefield

ATKINSON, John Head M 26 1845 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Emma Wife F 28 1843 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Sarah J Daughter F 6 1865 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Levenia Daughter F 1 1870 Yorkshire
RAWLIN, Henry Brother-In-Law M 23 1848 Yorkshire
RAWLIN, Walter Brother-In-Law M 21 1850 Yorkshire

Edit all born Stanley
Chris

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 18:24

If this is him in 1871, the marriage is later, so who does Ada belong to?
1871 England Census
John Atkinson
Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Lake Atkinson
Mother's Name: Jane Atkinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Stanley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Park District Town: Pontefract
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration District: Pontefract Sub-registration District: Pontefract
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household Schedule Number: 203
Piece: 4636 Folio: 81 Page Number: 43
Lake Atkinson 53
Jane Atkinson 47
William W Atkinson 26
xxx John Atkinson 22
Anna Atkinson 20
Emma Atkinson 19
Thomas Atkinson 17
Jane Atkinson 15
Ellen Atkinson 13
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4636; Folio: 81; Page: 43; GSU roll: 848405.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 26 Jul 2013 18:26

Baptisms
Name: Ada Atkinson
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1872
Father's Name: John Atkinson ..............a miner
Mother's Name: Emma Atkinson

Henry ATKINSON with same parents baptised the same day

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 18:30

Chrissie,
I think this is your 1871 in 1881:

1881 England Census
John Atkinson Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Atkinson
Gender: Male Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Rawlings Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Foundry Labourer (Iron)
Registration District: Wakefield Sub-registration District: Stanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 4574 Folio: 29 Page Number: 23
John Atkinson 36
Emma Atkinson 38
Louisa Atkinson 12
Maude Atkinson 9
Joe Atkinson 6
Lucy Atkinson 3
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4574; Folio: 29; Page: 23; GSU roll: 1342103.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Jul 2013 18:44

Ancestry is suggesting this marriage:
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Emma Senior
Name: Emma Senior
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1852
Age: 19
Father's Name: Benjamin Senior
Spouse's Name: John Atkinson
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Atkinson
Marriage Date: 6 Mar 1871
Marriage Place: Wombwell, Yorkshire, England

I think one of the children's birth certs would be the best bet,

Maureen

kira112

kira112 Report 26 Jul 2013 19:01

The marriage Gwyn found in 1864 have John & Emma but she would have been c14yrs old ??????

kira112

kira112 Report 26 Jul 2013 19:16

Thankyou all I think the 1871 censusJohn is 22 is correct but why would they marry in Wombwell nr Barnsley when they both lived in Wakefield ??

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jul 2013 19:25

I know there isn't a John on this 1871 BUT on Ada's baptism the address is given as "Bottom Boat" - is this family a connection to John?

ATKINSON, Thomas Head M 64 1807 Yorkshire - Shoemaker
ATKINSON, Elizabeth Wife F 54 1817 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, James Son M 30 1841 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, William Son M 24 1847 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Thomas Son M 20 1851 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Henry Son M 17 1854 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Joshua Son M 16 1855 Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Alfred Grandson M 13 1858 Yorkshire

Piece: 4619 Folio: 33 Page: 36
Registration District: Wakefield
Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe

Address: Bottom Boat Butcher's Shop, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire

EDIT: All born in Stanley.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jul 2013 19:32

This 1861 I'm sure is the family from the 1871 and they have a son John who fits the bill:

ATKINSON, Thomas Head Married M 53 1808 Cordwainer Stanley, Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Eliza Wife Married F 43 1818 Stanley, Yorkshire
ATKINSON, William Son M 14 1847 Coal Miners Labourer Stanley, Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Kezia Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Stanley, Yorkshire
ATKINSON, John Son M 12 1849 Coal Miners Labourer Stanley, Yorkshire <<<<<
ATKINSON, Thomas Son M 10 1851 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Henry Son M 8 1853 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Alfred Grandson M 3 1858 Stanley, Yorkshire

Piece: 3420 Folio: 113 Page: 16
Registration District: Wakefield
Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe

Address: Stanley Lane End, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

kira112

kira112 Report 26 Jul 2013 19:40

Thankyou Marie his Fathers name on Marriage Reg was Thomas
Regards to everyone

K

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jul 2013 19:52

The 1861 has TWO Emma Seniors with father Benjamin:

SENIOR, Benjamin Head Married M 41 1820 Coal Miner Ossett, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Jane Wife Married F 45 1816 Wakefield, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Newton Wakefield, Yorkshire
SENIOR, John Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Coal Miner Newton Wakefield, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Sarah J Daughter F 14 1847 Newton Wakefield, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Emma Daughter F 11 1850 East Moor Wakefield, Yorkshire

Piece: 3420 Folio: 69 Page: 3
Registration District: Wakefield
Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe

Address: Bell Terrace, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire (West riding)


and:


SENIOR, Benjamin Head Married M 53 1808 Mechanic Soothill, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Jane Wife Married F 53 1808 Dewsbury, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 25 1836 Nail Maker Dewsbury, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Henry Son M 15 1846 Woollen Cloth Weaver Dewsbury, Yorkshire
SENIOR, Emma Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Dewsbury, Yorkshire
DIPAR, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 23 1838 ... Dewsbury, Yorkshire
DIPAR, Walter Grandson M 3 1858 Scholar Dewsbury, Yorkshire

Piece: 3412 Folio: 61 Page: 19
Registration District: Dewsbury
Civil Parish: Dewsbury

Address: 86, Mill Road, Dewsbury County: Yorkshire (West riding)

(I think the first one more likely as it's in Stanley)

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2013 21:09

Just to show that there are 2 John Atkinsons born in Stanley Wakefield in 1849, according to ancestry:
1851 England Census
UK Census Collection
Name: John Atkinson
Birth: abt 1849 - Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1851 - Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire, England (Thomas and Eliza, parents)

1851 England Census
UK Census Collection
Name: John Atkinson
Birth: abt 1849 - Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1851 - Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire, England (Luke and Jane, parents)