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kira112
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26 Jul 2013 17:52 |
I have looked on freebmd but no matches please could anyone help me with this I am looking for the marriage of John S Atkinson bc1849 to Emma ? bc1851 their first child born c1871 All born Stanley Wakefield I have Census info
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Chrissie2394
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26 Jul 2013 18:09 |
Do you know what Johns middle name was.
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 18:09 |
If you get the birth certificate of one of the children it will have the mother's maiden name on it, which will help in finding/confirming a marriage if you are having problems.
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Gwyn in Kent
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26 Jul 2013 18:09 |
??????? Marriages Jun 1864 Atkinson John ...Wakefield 9c 36 <<<<<<<<???????? Atkinson Sarah Wakefield 9c 36 Higgin Charles Hartley Wakefield 9c 36 Rawling Emma ...Wakefield 9c 36 <<<<<<<<<???????
Middle names are not always used at marriage.
Do you have census information where they are in the same household as any of Emma's family. Do you have birth certificates for any of their children?
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 18:15 |
Are John and Emma together in 1871, and what is the name of their first child? Thanks
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 18:16 |
Gwyn, Emma born in 1851??
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 18:18 |
Just for ref: 1881 England Census John S. Atkinson Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Atkinson Gender: Male Where born: Stanley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: B Boat Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: C Miner Registration District: Wakefield Sub-registration District: Stanley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 4574 Folio: 114 Page Number: 51 John S. Atkinson 32 Emma Atkinson 30 Ada Atkinson 10 Henry Atkinson 8 Ann E. Atkinson 6 Polly Atkinson 4 Thos. Atkinson 2 Herbert Atkinson Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4574; Folio: 114; Page: 51; GSU roll: 1342103.
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kira112
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26 Jul 2013 18:22 |
1881 census John is 32yrs b1849 Emma is 30 Daughter Ada is 10yrs info from Census & his sons Marriage Reg
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Chrissie2394
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26 Jul 2013 18:24 |
1871??
ATKINSON, John Address: Green Hill, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Wakefield
ATKINSON, John Head M 26 1845 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Emma Wife F 28 1843 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Sarah J Daughter F 6 1865 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Levenia Daughter F 1 1870 Yorkshire RAWLIN, Henry Brother-In-Law M 23 1848 Yorkshire RAWLIN, Walter Brother-In-Law M 21 1850 Yorkshire
Edit all born Stanley Chris
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 18:24 |
If this is him in 1871, the marriage is later, so who does Ada belong to? 1871 England Census John Atkinson Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: Lake Atkinson Mother's Name: Jane Atkinson Gender: Male Where born: Stanley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Park District Town: Pontefract County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: Pontefract Sub-registration District: Pontefract ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household Schedule Number: 203 Piece: 4636 Folio: 81 Page Number: 43 Lake Atkinson 53 Jane Atkinson 47 William W Atkinson 26 xxx John Atkinson 22 Anna Atkinson 20 Emma Atkinson 19 Thomas Atkinson 17 Jane Atkinson 15 Ellen Atkinson 13 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4636; Folio: 81; Page: 43; GSU roll: 848405.
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Gwyn in Kent
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26 Jul 2013 18:26 |
Baptisms Name: Ada Atkinson Parish: Stanley, St Peter Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1872 Father's Name: John Atkinson ..............a miner Mother's Name: Emma Atkinson
Henry ATKINSON with same parents baptised the same day
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 18:30 |
Chrissie, I think this is your 1871 in 1881:
1881 England Census John Atkinson Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Atkinson Gender: Male Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Rawlings Yard Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Foundry Labourer (Iron) Registration District: Wakefield Sub-registration District: Stanley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 4574 Folio: 29 Page Number: 23 John Atkinson 36 Emma Atkinson 38 Louisa Atkinson 12 Maude Atkinson 9 Joe Atkinson 6 Lucy Atkinson 3 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4574; Folio: 29; Page: 23; GSU roll: 1342103.
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MaureeninNY
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26 Jul 2013 18:44 |
Ancestry is suggesting this marriage: England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Emma Senior Name: Emma Senior Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1852 Age: 19 Father's Name: Benjamin Senior Spouse's Name: John Atkinson Spouse's Age: 22 Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Atkinson Marriage Date: 6 Mar 1871 Marriage Place: Wombwell, Yorkshire, England
I think one of the children's birth certs would be the best bet,
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kira112
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26 Jul 2013 19:01 |
The marriage Gwyn found in 1864 have John & Emma but she would have been c14yrs old ??????
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kira112
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26 Jul 2013 19:16 |
Thankyou all I think the 1871 censusJohn is 22 is correct but why would they marry in Wombwell nr Barnsley when they both lived in Wakefield ??
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jul 2013 19:25 |
I know there isn't a John on this 1871 BUT on Ada's baptism the address is given as "Bottom Boat" - is this family a connection to John?
ATKINSON, Thomas Head M 64 1807 Yorkshire - Shoemaker ATKINSON, Elizabeth Wife F 54 1817 Yorkshire ATKINSON, James Son M 30 1841 Yorkshire ATKINSON, William Son M 24 1847 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Thomas Son M 20 1851 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Henry Son M 17 1854 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Joshua Son M 16 1855 Yorkshire ATKINSON, Alfred Grandson M 13 1858 Yorkshire
Piece: 4619 Folio: 33 Page: 36 Registration District: Wakefield Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe
Address: Bottom Boat Butcher's Shop, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire
EDIT: All born in Stanley.
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jul 2013 19:32 |
This 1861 I'm sure is the family from the 1871 and they have a son John who fits the bill:
ATKINSON, Thomas Head Married M 53 1808 Cordwainer Stanley, Yorkshire ATKINSON, Eliza Wife Married F 43 1818 Stanley, Yorkshire ATKINSON, William Son M 14 1847 Coal Miners Labourer Stanley, Yorkshire ATKINSON, Kezia Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Stanley, Yorkshire ATKINSON, John Son M 12 1849 Coal Miners Labourer Stanley, Yorkshire <<<<< ATKINSON, Thomas Son M 10 1851 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire ATKINSON, Henry Son M 8 1853 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire ATKINSON, Alfred Grandson M 3 1858 Stanley, Yorkshire
Piece: 3420 Folio: 113 Page: 16 Registration District: Wakefield Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe
Address: Stanley Lane End, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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kira112
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26 Jul 2013 19:40 |
Thankyou Marie his Fathers name on Marriage Reg was Thomas Regards to everyone
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jul 2013 19:52 |
The 1861 has TWO Emma Seniors with father Benjamin:
SENIOR, Benjamin Head Married M 41 1820 Coal Miner Ossett, Yorkshire SENIOR, Jane Wife Married F 45 1816 Wakefield, Yorkshire SENIOR, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Newton Wakefield, Yorkshire SENIOR, John Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Coal Miner Newton Wakefield, Yorkshire SENIOR, Sarah J Daughter F 14 1847 Newton Wakefield, Yorkshire SENIOR, Emma Daughter F 11 1850 East Moor Wakefield, Yorkshire
Piece: 3420 Folio: 69 Page: 3 Registration District: Wakefield Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe
Address: Bell Terrace, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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SENIOR, Benjamin Head Married M 53 1808 Mechanic Soothill, Yorkshire SENIOR, Jane Wife Married F 53 1808 Dewsbury, Yorkshire SENIOR, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 25 1836 Nail Maker Dewsbury, Yorkshire SENIOR, Henry Son M 15 1846 Woollen Cloth Weaver Dewsbury, Yorkshire SENIOR, Emma Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Dewsbury, Yorkshire DIPAR, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 23 1838 ... Dewsbury, Yorkshire DIPAR, Walter Grandson M 3 1858 Scholar Dewsbury, Yorkshire
Piece: 3412 Folio: 61 Page: 19 Registration District: Dewsbury Civil Parish: Dewsbury
Address: 86, Mill Road, Dewsbury County: Yorkshire (West riding)
(I think the first one more likely as it's in Stanley)
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patchem
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26 Jul 2013 21:09 |
Just to show that there are 2 John Atkinsons born in Stanley Wakefield in 1849, according to ancestry: 1851 England Census UK Census Collection Name: John Atkinson Birth: abt 1849 - Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Residence: 1851 - Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire, England (Thomas and Eliza, parents)
1851 England Census UK Census Collection Name: John Atkinson Birth: abt 1849 - Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Residence: 1851 - Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire, England (Luke and Jane, parents)
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