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Sheena Jane
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23 Jul 2013 16:57 |
He was brought up in Gateshead and born in about 1909. He travelled to North Borneo by ship in 1950, lived in Sandakan and was an engineer. Don't know which company he worked for.
Returned to England in the 60's and passed away in Gosport Hampshire in 1966.
He had a half sister called Pat married to Jack and they had one daughter called Joan, all living in the Gateshead area.
Can anyone help please?
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Catherine
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23 Jul 2013 17:00 |
Here he is in 1911:-
1911 England Census about John Ryan Armstrong Name: John Ryan Armstrong Age in 1911: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909 Relation to Head: Grandson Gender: Male Birth Place: Gateshead, Durham, England Civil Parish: Elswick County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: 42 Maple St N C Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Registration District Number: 558 Sub-registration District: Elswick ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 30584 Household Members: Name Age Elizebeth McGuire 46 Catherine McGuire 26 Theresa McGuire 20 Catherine McKiver 19 Sydney Armstrong 3 John Ryan Armstrong 2 John Edward Armstrong 26 - Son in law (widower) Michael Davitt Kelly 28 Andrew Bell 50
States married for 4yrs so possible marriage for John Ed. Armstrong:- Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%) Armstrong John Edwin Gateshead 10a 1816 HOOD Samuel Gateshead 10a 1816 HOPKINS Florence Maud Gateshead 10a 1816 HOPPER Mary Ann Gateshead 10a 1816 HOWD Mary Ann Gateshead 10a 1816
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Catherine
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23 Jul 2013 17:01 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John Ryan Armstrong Name: John Ryan Armstrong Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909 Registration District: Gateshead Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 1065
Birth cert. will give you his parents names + mmn.
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Rambling
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23 Jul 2013 17:02 |
Hello Sheena, what sort of info are you looking for?
Births Jun 1909 (>99%) ARMSTRONG John Ryan Gateshead 10a 1065
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Rambling
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23 Jul 2013 17:05 |
Probable marriage given grandmother's name
Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%) ARMSTRONG John Edward Newcastle T. 10b 177 MCGUIRE Mary Elizabeth Newcastle T. 10b 177
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greyghost
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23 Jul 2013 17:09 |
Welcome to the boards Sheena. What do you want to know? Do you know if he married and where/to who or his parents names. There are quite a few John Armstrongs aged 1/2 in Gateshead 1911 census
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Births Jun 1909 (>99%) ARMSTRONG John Ryan Gateshead 10a 1065
So he may have shown on the 1911 (Taken 2 April)as aged 1 or 2 as it's possible he was born up to 6 weeks before he was registered
Civil Registration event: Death
Name: ARMSTRONG, John R Registration district: Gosport County: Hampshire Year of registration: 1966 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 57 Volume no: 6B Page no: 433
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Rambling
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23 Jul 2013 17:12 |
If that marriage is correct possible death for Mary E Armstrong ( nee McGuire)
ARMSTRONG Mary E 25 Newcastle T. 10b 46
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Catherine
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23 Jul 2013 17:13 |
Looks as though married in Newcastle not Gateshead:-
Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%) xxxxx ARMSTRONG John Edward Newcastle T. 10b 177 BRUCE Benjamin Thomas Newcastle T. 10b 177 Chambers Elizabeth Ann Newcastle T. 10b 177 xxxxx MCGUIRE Mary Elizabeth Newcastle T. 10b 177
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greyghost
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23 Jul 2013 17:14 |
1911 census transcription details for: 42 Maple Street Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
National Archive Reference: RG14PN30584 RG78PN1753 RD558 SD3 ED6 SN18 Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Elswick Parish: Elswick Enum. District: 6 Address: 42 Maple Street Newcastle-Upon-Tyne County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born MCGUIRE, Elizabeth Head Married F 46 1865 Carlisle Cumberland MCGUIRE, Catherine Daughter Single F 26 1885 Barmaid Longhdon Dumfresshire MCGUIRE, Theresa Daughter Single F 20 1891 Barmaid Newcastle/tyne Northumberland ARMSTRONG, Sydney Grandson M 3 1908 Gateshead Durham ARMSTRONG, John Bryan Grandson M 2 1909 Gateshead Durham ARMSTRONG, John Edward Son-In-Law Widow M 26 1885 Publican's Manager Gateshead Durham KELLY, Michael Davitt Boarder Single M 28 1883 Publican's Manager Draperstown Co Down BELL, Andrew Brother Single M 50 1861 Labourer General Tyrone Co Tyrone Resident
John Edward Armstrong already a widower - it says 4 children born to marriage and 2 still living, 2 died
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Rambling
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23 Jul 2013 17:15 |
What is quite interesting is following that census in 1911, John Edward appears to have married his late wife's sister?
Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%) Armstrong John E McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 142
McGuire Theresa Armstrong Newcastle T. 10b 142
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Catherine
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23 Jul 2013 17:16 |
Possible death, but only a possible:-
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about John E Armstrong Name: John E Armstrong Birth Date: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Jun 1949 Age at Death: 64 Registration District: Gateshead Inferred County: Durham Volume: 1a Page: 729 ...................................
Another possible:-
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about John E Armstrong Name: John E Armstrong Birth Date: abt 1884 Date of Registration: Dec 1950 Age at Death: 66 Registration District: Durham South eastern Inferred County: Durham Volume: 1a Page: 619
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Rambling
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23 Jul 2013 17:17 |
Half sister to Ryan?
Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Armstrong Patricia T McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 82
and marriage to John J ( Jack?)
Marriages Sep 1959 (>99%) ARMSTRONG Patricia T DEVLIN Gateshead 1a 2164 DEVLIN John J ARMSTRONG Gateshead 1a 2164
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Rambling
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23 Jul 2013 17:21 |
BUT that marriage appears to have more children and none called Joan so maybe not?
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Catherine
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23 Jul 2013 17:27 |
Wonder if these are relevant????
Deaths Jun 1912 (>99%) Armstrong Theresa 0 Newcastle T. 10b 9
Deaths Mar 1930 (>99%) Armstrong Theresa 36 Gateshead 10a 1007
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Catherine
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23 Jul 2013 17:29 |
Lots of possible children to this couple:-
Births Jun 1912 (>99%) Armstrong Theresa McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 122 (see death above) Births Sep 1913 (>99%) Armstrong Annie McGuire Newcastle T 10b 213 Births Mar 1914 (>99%) ARMSTRONG Elizabeth McGuire Newcastle T 10b 227 Births Mar 1915 (>99%) Armstrong William J McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 136 Births Jun 1917 (>99%) Armstrong John McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 102 Armstrong John McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 98 Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Armstrong Patricia T McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 82 Births Mar 1919 (>99%) Armstrong Elsie McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 157 Births Jun 1920 (>99%) Armstrong Irene M McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 85 Births Mar 1923 (>99%) Armstrong Margaret McGuire Newcastle T. 10b 81
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Cynthia
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24 Jul 2013 18:59 |
As Sheena is a new poster, I will send a friendly message on how to return to her thread. :-)
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Eringobragh1916
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24 Jul 2013 20:44 |
Name: John Ryan Armstrong Event Type: Military Service Event Year Range: 1921-1941 Event Place: United Kingdom Birthplace: Durham Birth Year: 1909
Merchant Navy Seamans Records.
I dont have access to check out details...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCFT-VW9
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Dea
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24 Jul 2013 20:59 |
Erin - I am confused........
Is it me or have you posted the wrong link above ?? - It seems to take me to
James Charles O'Connell, "Ireland, Landed Estate Court Files, 1850-1885"
I can't see a connection :-S
Dea Xxx
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MarieCeleste
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24 Jul 2013 21:17 |
This is the Merchant Navy record from FMP:
Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941
Last name: ARMSTRONG First names: John Ryan Age: Day of birth: Month of birth: Year of birth: 1909 Place of birth: Gateshead County/country of birth: Durham Card type: CR1 Discharge number: R 81167 Identity certificate no.: Series: BT349 Date range: 1921-1941
Rating was 5th Eng.
5' 7" tall, grey eyes, light brown hair, fresh complexion.
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Eringobragh1916
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24 Jul 2013 21:47 |
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC7D-73P
Dea...Sorry the above is the correct link....!!
MarieCeleste has managed to get the details.....she's obviously psychic....!!!!
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