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I am searching for any information on Charles William Harvey poss born in 1849, father of William Charles Harvey b.1881 d. 1940 in Cleethorpes (Williams spouse was Florence Smith b.1879 in Grimsby.)

Charles William mwas possibly a fisherman? living in the Grimsby area.

Hello Joanne, do you have William Charles' birth and marriage certificates to confirm his father's details?

Do you know where William Charles was born?

For reference, is this the family in 1911?

HARVEY, William Head Married M 31 1880 Labourer On Fish Docks Grimsby Lincs
HARVEY, Florence Wife Married 9 years F 31 1880 Grimsby Lincs
HARVEY, Doris Mary Daughter F 8 1903 School Grimsby Lincs
HARVEY, William Matthew Son M 6 1905 School Grimsby Lincs
HARVEY, Charles Nelson Son M 1 1910 Grimsby Lincs
RUDLAND, Henry Smith Boarder Widower M 33 1878 Sailmaker Grimsby Lincs
RUDLAND, Harvey Son M 10 1901 School Grimsby Lincs

RG number: RG14 Piece: 19981
Reference: RG14PN19981 RG78PN1197B RD422 SD1 ED31 SN168
Registration District: Grimsby
Sub District: Great Grimsby
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Clee

Address: 39 Duke St Grimsby County: Lincolnshire

(Just those 3 children born)

Hi

I have his marriage certificate to Florence Smith and this confirms that his father was Charles William Harvey who was a fisherman, that is all I have I'm afraid.

Yes that is correct, my grandfather is William Matthew born 1905.

Joanne - was there an actual address for William on the marriage certificate? Does it look like any of the witnesses could be family members? Did it mention if his father was deceased?

The only William I've found so far with a father called Charles was one where the father was a tobacconist.

Have you looked for a birth reg'n for William born c1880?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

William was listed as living at 79 Sussex Street, Cleethorpes. It does not mention that Charles was deceased and the only other family members listed are Matthew William Smith and Frances Emily Smith who were witnesses and on Florences side of the family by the look of it.

MC your tobacconist is in 1901...in 1891 he's a grocer!...and in 1881 he's a cook/steward on a barge in Clee

And in 1871 he's an AB Seaman on Dogger Bank

He's Suffolk born married to Ellen

Jude

1881 census transcription details for: 28, Hamilton St, Clee With Weelsby


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3272
Folio: 106
Page: 32
Reg. District: Caistor
Sub District: Great Grimsby
Parish: Clee with Weelsby
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 28, Hamilton St, Clee With Weelsby
County: Lincolnshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HARVEY, Charles Head Married M 27 1854 Cook Steward Bargue Athenian
Riddlingfield, Suffolk
HARVEY, Ellen Wife Married F 23 1858
Brightlingsea, Essex
HARVEY, Lilly Daughter Single F 4 1877
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
HARVEY, Charles W Son Single M 2 1879
New Clee, Lincolnshire
HARVEY, Nelly Daughter Single F 1 1880
New Clee, Lincolnshire

I found the same family as MarieCeleste. This looks like them in the 1891 census. His father here is a Grocer and in 1901 is a tobacconist. Perhaps his father changed occupations a lot:-

1891 census transcription details for: 21, Worsley Buildings, New Dock Road, Great Grimsby, Grimsby

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2616
Folio: 84
Page: 17
Reg. District: Caistor
Sub District: Great Grimsby
Parish: Great Grimsby
Enum. District: 27
Ecclesiastical District: St Andrews
City/Municipal Borough: Grimsby

Address: 21, Worsley Buildings, New Dock Road, Great Grimsby, Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

HARVEY, Charles Head Married M 39 1852 Grocer
Redlingfield, Suffolk
HARVEY, Ellen Wife Married F 35 1856
Grimsby
HARVEY, Liley Daughter Single F 14 1877
Grimsby
HARVEY, Charles Wm Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar
Grimsby
HARVEY, Ellen Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar
Grimsby
HARVEY, William Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Grimsby
HARVEY, George Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar
Grimsby
HARVEY, Edward Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar
Grimsby
HARVEY, Harry Son Single M 3 1888
Grimsby
HARVEY, Arthur Son Single M 0 (8M) 1891
Grimsby

Kath. x

In 1901 a family called Coulbeck were living 79 Sussex Street and I can't find it in 1911. :-(

For the set...1871

Name: Charles Harvey
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: A B Seaman (Seaman)
Gender: Male
Where born: Readlingfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Dogger Bank
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration District: Caistor
Sub-registration District: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: Harlequin
Household Schedule Number: 1
Piece: 3418
Folio: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Starling 34
Thomas Alddus 34
James Knight 30
George Smith 24
Charles Harvey 22
Richard Bunting 33
Richard Roscow 16
Charles Bacon 16
Aron Pesterfield 15
Joseph Humberstone 16
James Parkes 16

IF it's the correct one William Charles (showing as Charles William???) is born 1879?

This is 1861 for Charles William from Suffolk

Name: Charles Harney
[Charles Harvey]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Harney
Mother's Name: Mary A Harney
Gender: Male
Where born: Redlingfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Redlingfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Hartismere
Sub-registration District: Eye
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 2
Piece: 1150
Folio: 100
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Harney 54
Mary A Harney 52
Samuel Harney 17
Benjamin Harney 14
Charles Harney 11
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There is this 1851...but father is changed???

Name: Charles Harvey
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Redlingfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Redlingfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Hartismere
Sub-registration District: Mendlesham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 24
Piece: 1795
Folio: 497
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Harvey 41
Maryann Harvey 41
Matilda Harvey 16
Lional Harvey 14
David Harvey 12
William Harvey 10
John Harvey 8
James Harvey 5
Charles Harvey 3

Jude, the 1891 shows that Charles William was the elder brother of William ......

I took it that the Charles William (father of William who married Florence) was a fisherman at the time of the marriage.

Joanne - where did you get the potential birth year of 1849 for the father?

In 1911 there is a family called TILLING living at 79 Sussex Street.

Kath. x

ah yes MC! ;-)

Joanne - what was William's occupation and age on the marriage certificate?

Jude

The marriage certificate of William Charles Harvey and Florence Smith states that Charles William's occupation was fisherman, the date of the marriage was Aug 25th 1901.
To be honest I'm not sure where the date of Charles Williams birth came from, poss my mother.
I know that I really need Williams birth certificate.

Williams occupation was listed as Labourer on the marriage certificate and he was listed as 21 years old.