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Just putting the fmp record for James up. He got 6 calendar months at Wandsworth Prison (without hard labour).

He was convicted of common nuisance but was accused of something far worse.

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First name: James Thompson
Last name: Muir
Age: 25
Year of birth: 1858
Occupation: Clerk In Holy Orders
Date the court session started: 15 Oct 1883
Record source: Central Criminal Court: After Trial Calendars of Prisoners
The National Archives reference: CRIM9/29


He is 10 years younger than your James so does not seem to be yours.

Thanks so far - off to bed :)

Prehaps she dropped the Muir!

Just adding for Ref ....

no prob Erin

Cippy....Am still lookling...just added the ones for ALM in case you didnt have them or there was a "Clue" somewhere.....

yes, thankyou, but I am looking for Mary Herring Muir, the music teacher

Possible 1911

Name: Annie Lydia Muir
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 31
Birthplace: Sunderland, Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Tadcaster
Sub-District: Tadcaster
Parish: Newton Kyme Cum Toulston
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)


1901 Has her working as a Servant in Whickham (Co Durham)

yes have all that

She died in north sheilds aged 79 leaving £448 1s 6d name ann l d Lass

Her Hubby died 1954leaving £1109 19s 1d to Joseph woodmass Lass a retired engineer

1891 England Census
about Annie Lydia Dove Muir

Name:
Annie Lydia Dove Muir
Age:

13
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1878
Relation:

ScholarGender:
Female Where born:
Sunderland, Durham, England Civil Parish:
Whitley
Ecclesiastical parish:
Cullercoats St Paul
Town:
Whitley
County/Island:
Northumberland
Country:
England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration District:
Tynemouth
Sub-registration District:Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel:
Northumberland Village Homes
Neighbors:
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Piece:
4230
Folio:
137
Page Number:

1

Just for ref as she isnt with her dad or her auntie either
Its a village home for girls
You may have this but not sure

well I still can't find a thing, agree probably out the country

The name is an exact match for Ann's father

prison for common nuisance :)

Don't suppose this is James ?


Name:
James Thompson Muir

Date of Trial:15 Oct 1883
Trial Year:1883

Location of Trial:Surrey, England

Sentence:
Imprisonment

Ann Lydia Muir is a scholar in 1891 in Northumberland so not at home which suggests her father might be somewhere else perhaps Scotland or Wales

1911 census
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Person: MUIR, James Thompson Address: 24 Northumberland St Sunderland

MUIR, James Thompson Head Widower M 63 1848 Late Coal Fitter Durham Sunderland

Same address in 1901.

Have checked address in 1891...............different occupants

just checking passenger lists

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Deaths Jun 1918 (>99%)
Muir James T 70 Sunderland 10a 659

or gone to Scotland ?