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30 Jun 2013 12:47 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: DAVIES, Joseph Address: 10 Aston St Tipton
DAVIES, Joseph Head Married43 years M 65 1846 Iron Worker Puddling Furnace Dudley VIEW DAVIES, Mary Wife Married F 63 1848 Tipton VIEW DAVIES, Job Son Single M 34 1877 Labourer Bricklayers Tipton VIEW HOWES, Elijah Boarder Single M 30 1881 Iron Worker At Rolls In Forge Tipton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17388 Reference: RG14PN17388 RG78PN1065 RD372 SD2 ED16 SN278 Registration District: Dudley Sub District: Tipton Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Tipton Address: 10 Aston St Tipton County: Staffordshire (4 children born, 3 living 1 had died)
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LadyKira
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30 Jun 2013 12:30 |
This is his son Noah
1911 England Census about Bertha Davis Name: Bertha Davis Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Netherton, Worcestershire Civil Parish: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 26 Dudley Port, Tipton, Staffs Marital Status: Single Occupation: Housekeeper Registration District: Dudley Registration District Number: 372 Sub-registration District: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 124 Piece: 17375 Household Members: Name Age Noah Davis 69 Bertha Davis 34 John Davis 28 Frederick Davis 21
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jun 2013 12:19 |
Genes have said on a number of occasions that they're quite happy for us to name the sites we use as sources. The only issue they have is if we make unfavourable comparisons between this site and others.
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2013 12:14 |
Ancestry is the site referred to above.............
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CupCakes
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30 Jun 2013 12:11 |
Shirley - thanks for taking so much trouble - have now found both the 1841 & 1851 census on A.........(don't want to mention the name in full)
Just up to the children now the siblings of James. So many - wonder how they managed so many children in those days
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 12:05 |
Sue
The 1851 its on Ancestry . I searched with no surname but poss birth years etc and came upon that one
Edit. My reply is a bit late as have been out taking OH to church,and then picking him up again
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30 Jun 2013 11:10 |
MarieCeleste thank you - didn't think of that.
I'm carefully copying everything with all the references
To sort out the births of all their kids is going to e a nightmare
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jun 2013 10:03 |
It appears Noah married as Paine:
Eliza Woodhall, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: Noah Paine Spouse's Name: Eliza Woodhall Event Date: 27 Jul 1835 Event Place: St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16744-5 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1526189 Reference ID: 2:3S323DB Sources
Citing this Record https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXYZ-S2P
(FamilySearch is really easy to use now)
Perhaps Noah was illegitimate and switched between father and mother's surnames?
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CupCakes
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30 Jun 2013 09:56 |
This is amazing this morning - thanks so much
If anybody has the time can they look up the baptism/birth of the children Thomas, Jane & Joseph.
Not sure if Thomas is Noah's son either.
Want to be sure of my facts before I pass the info on.
Need the marriage of Noah & Eliza Woodall confirmed as well.
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CupCakes
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30 Jun 2013 09:37 |
Shirley - thanks found them - wonder where the Paine name came from and why.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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30 Jun 2013 09:24 |
1871 England Census about Noah Davis Name: Noah Davis Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Davis Gender: Male Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Schedule Number: 28 Piece: 2998 Folio: 6 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Noah Davis 58 PUDDLER Eliza Davis 55 Mary A Davis 11
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CupCakes
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30 Jun 2013 09:17 |
Gosh this is moving so fast - just shows fresh eyes are invaluable.
Shirley - where did you find the 1841 census & 1851 (Pain). Is there an url link
Chris Ho - thanks for the baptism indo - never throught of FreeReg
MarieCeleste - I have corrected the info so the records are bapts
Thanks everybody
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jun 2013 09:05 |
Burial County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church Wesleyan Methodist Chapel (Swan Bank) RegisterNumber 28314 BurialDate 15 May 1854 Forename Noah Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname DAVIS Age 14 Abode Bilston
(above 1854)
Chris :)
(oh, post now changed to 1884)
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30 Jun 2013 09:04 |
.? 1841 England Census about Noah Davis Name: Noah Davis Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Civil Parish: West Bromwich Hundred: South Offlow County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
View Image Registration District: West Bromwich Sub-registration District: West Bromwich Southwest Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 978 Book: 9 Folio: 8 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Noah Davis 25 Eliza Davis 20 James Davis 8 Thomas Davis 6 Jane Davis 4 Maria Davis 2 Joseph Davis 1 Mo Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 978; Book: 9; Civil Parish: West Bromwich; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 19; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 16; GSU roll: 474614.
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30 Jun 2013 09:00 |
Sorry I made a typo in Noah's death - have edited the opening post. 1861 census is corrected it is the info before then that is missing. I have obviously asked others but nobody seems to be able to explain where the info came from that is why I'm trying to prove it.
Can't get my head round the new IGI site - struggling to find any info for myself
Thanks everybody
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jun 2013 08:56 |
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Dudley Staffs Church St Thomas RegisterNumber 154 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 28 Jul 1833 Forename James Sex M FatherForename MotherForename Eliza FatherSurname MotherSurname WOODALL Abode Freebodies FatherOccupation Notes 'Illegitimate'
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Dudley Staffs Church St Thomas RegisterNumber 128 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 28 Mar 1813 Forename Noah Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Mary FatherSurname DAVIS MotherSurname Abode Rowley FatherOccupation Nailor
Chris :)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(from above useful link)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:52 |
1851 census Name: Noah Pains [User-submitted-comment] Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Pains Gender: M (Male) Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Dudley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:St Johns Road
Occupation:PUDDLER
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 1dd Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 54 Piece: 2033 Folio: 222 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Noah Pains 38 Eliza Pains 36 Jas Pains 18 Thos Pains 15 Jane Pains 13 Maria Pains 11 Josh Pains 7 Olive Pains 5 Caroline Pains 3
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2033; Folio: 222; Page: 16; GSU roll: 87440.
Submitted correction
Surname was poss.Payne Davies (various spellings )The family seemed to swop from Davies to Paine /Payne . Submitted by thomwood1 on 12/01/2012
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Jun 2013 08:48 |
He is with son Joseph in 1881 Name: Noah Davies Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Father Gender: Male Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 2 CT 3 Chapel St Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status:
View Image Occupation: Puddler Retired Registration District: Dudley Sub-registration District: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2863 Folio: 123 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Davies 36 Mary Davies 34 Joseph Davies 11 Noah Davies 6 Eliza Davies 5 Charlotte Davies 3 Moses Davies Noah Davies 70 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2863; Folio: 123; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341686.
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jun 2013 08:45 |
I would have thought that based on the census above that this death was more likely:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Noah Davies Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6c Page: 42
rather than
Name: Noah Davis Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1854 Registration District: Wolverhampton Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 299
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30 Jun 2013 08:45 |
Looks like he didn't die till 1884
Name: Noah Davies Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6c Page: 42
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