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Possibly John the father -
Name: John Green
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 05 Aug 1797
Christening Place: TANWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Green
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
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Thanks alviegal.
I am pretty sure that this is Richard's baptism:
Name: Richard Green
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Jul 1826
Christening Place: Tanworth Parish, Warwick, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Green
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
which would tie in with his saying Henley in Arden in the later census.
I think his wife was from Stourport, not Stockport.
As far as I know, TaMworth has never been in Worcestershire, though it was at one time in Staffordshire.
TaNworth has always been in Warwickshire!
This is very confusing and I am sure that the census taker didn't have a clue either.
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This is Richard on fmp.
1851 census transcription details for: 18, Court 3 House, Barford Street, Saint Martins, Birmingham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2053
Folio: 282
Page: 44
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: Saint Martin
Parish: Saint Martins
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 18, Court 3 House, Barford Street, Saint Martins, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GREEN, Richard Head Married M 24 1827 Journeyman Brush Maker
Tamworth, Warwickshire
GREEN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 26 1825
Stockport, Worcestershire
GREEN, Elizabeth (actually reads Eliza Jane) Daughter F 1 1850
Birmingham, Warwickshire
1861 census transcription details for: 63, Communication Row, Birmingham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2139
Folio: 84
Page: 21
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: 2 St Thomas
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 32
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 63, Communication Row, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GREEN, Richd Head Married M 34 1827 Brush Maker
Birmingham, Warwickshire
GREEN, Mary A Wife Married F 36 1825
..., Worcestershire
GREEN, Eliza A (should be J, I think) Daughter F 11 1850
Birmingham, Warwickshire
GREEN, Isabella Daughter F 8 1853
Birmingham, Warwickshire
GREEN, Agnes E Daughter F 3 1858
Birmingham, Warwickshire
GREEN, Geo Ed Son M 1 1860
Birmingham, Warwickshire
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Just found this in 1861
Birmingham St. Thomas
51,13 Prices Place,1,John Green,Head,M,64,,Labourer,Tamworth Warwickshire,,
,,,Mary Green,Wife,M,,62,,Tamworth Warwickshire,,
,,,Robert Spencer,Lodger,M,53,,Shoeing Smith,Birmingham Warwickshire,,
,,,Mary Spencer,Wife,M,,53,,Tamworth Warwickshire,,
,,,Mary Jane Green,Grndau,,,10,,Birmingham Warwickshire,,
Now I'm wondering about TaMworth and TaNworth (two totally different places but easily confused!)
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Original shows name written as Mary Jane with no ditto under Green, so guess it's been transcribed with the thought that Jane was the Surname!
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Thanks also Stuart and alviegal.
With John being a milkman in 1851 it's definitely the same chap.
The youngest child Mary would I guess be Ann's illegitimate daughter.
Hopefully I can get back a bit further now, thank you again everyone
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Thanks Glitterbaby
Yes, that's the one I had for Richard.
Tanworth-in-Arden is very close to Henley.
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1851 census transcription details for: 1, House Coventry Street, Saint Martin, Birmingham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2053
Folio: 567
Page: 32
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: Saint Martin
Parish: Saint Martin
Enum. District: 20
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 1, House Coventry Street, Saint Martin, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GREEN, John Head Married M 53 1798 Milk Man
Birmingham
GREEN, Mary Wife Married F 52 1799
Tamworth, Worcestershire
GREEN, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Schollar
Birmingham
JANE, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 0 (4 MOS) 1851
Birmingham
HAIRES, Charles Lodger Unmarried M 51 1800 Labourer
Barnhill, Warwickshire
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1851 census transcription details for: 18, Court 3 House, Barford Street, Saint Martins, Birmingham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2053
Folio: 282
Page: 44
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: Saint Martin
Parish: Saint Martins
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 18, Court 3 House, Barford Street, Saint Martins, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GREEN, Richard Head Married M 24 1827 Journeyman Brush Maker Tamworth, Warwickshire
GREEN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 26 1825 Stockport, Worcestershire
GREEN, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1850 Birmingham, Warwickshire
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1851 census transcription details for: 1, House Coventry Street, Saint Martin, Birmingham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2053
Folio: 567
Page: 32
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: Saint Martin
Parish: Saint Martin
Enum. District: 20
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 1, House Coventry Street, Saint Martin, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GREEN, John Head Married M 53 1798 Milk Man Birmingham
GREEN, Mary Wife Married F 52 1799 Tamworth, Worcestershire
GREEN, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Schollar Birmingham
JANE, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Birmingham
HAIRES, Charles Lodger Unmarried M 51 1800 LabourerBarnhill, Warwickshire
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1851 this one ?
Name: Richard Green
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Green
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Tanworth, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham St Martin
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 176
Piece: 2053
Folio: 282
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Green 24
Mary Ann Green 26 - Stourport
Eliza Jane Green 1
Class: HO107; Piece: 2053; Folio: 282; Page: 44; GSU roll: 87311-87312.
If this one then he has changed occupation to journeyman brush maker
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Hello all,
This is my 4 x g-grandfather John Green in 1841 with his family.
Piece: HO107/1142/2 Place: Birmingham -Warwickshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: B'ham (St Martin) Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 28 Page: 10
Address: Coventry St
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GREEN John M 40 Milkman Warwickshire
GREEN Mary F 40 Warwickshire
GREEN Richard M 14 Bellows Maker Appren Warwickshire
GREEN Ann F 9 Warwickshire
I am descended from Richard, who in 1871 gives his place of birth as Henley in Arden. In 1851 Richard is married to Mary (Yates) and living in Birmingham St. Martin with baby daughter Elizabeth.
I think that I have his parents John and Mary with his sister Ann, also living in B'ham Saint Martin.
I'd be grateful if someone could post the details for the two families, I am particularly keen to find their places of birth. With names like John and Mary Green it is proving impossible otherwise to trace them any further.
Thanks very much
Beverley
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