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24 Jun 2013 09:11 |
my mams maiden name was mcintyre, her dad married a charlotte proctor,in1908 she was born 1892, my mams dad was michael joseph mcintyre born1890 died 1961 and his parents was patrick mcintyre born 1845 from ireland,he married a mary flannagan born1854 also from ireland, i would like to no how i go about finding more about other children they had aswel as my grandad
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24 Jun 2013 09:22 |
For reference:
1911 census transcription details for: 63 Lamb Street Kirkdale Liverpool Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN22468 RG78PN1323 RD455 SD6 ED25 SN324 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: Kirkdale Parish: Kirkdale Enum. District: 25 Address: 63 Lamb Street Kirkdale Liverpool County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born PROCTER, Robert Head Widower M 51 1860 Dock Labourer Nova Scotia Resident MCINTYRE, Charlotte Mary Daughter Married 2 years F 19 1892 House Keeper Liverpool Lanc PROCTER, Jane Daughter Single F 17 1894 Restaurant Waitress Liverpool Lanc PROCTER, Georgina Daughter Single F 14 1897 Liverpool Lanc PROCTER, Robert Son M 12 1899 School Liverpool Lanc PROCTER, Margerat Daughter F 10 1901 School Liverpool Lanc PROCTER, John Son M 6 1905 School Liverpool Lanc MCINTYRE, Michael Joseph Son In Law Married M 20 1891 Dock Labourer Liverpool Lanc MCINTYRE, Dora E Daughter F 2 1909 Liverpool Lanc MCINTYRE, Charlotte Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Liverpool Lanc
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24 Jun 2013 09:31 |
1891 census transcription details for: 19, Townsend Street, Liverpool Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2905 Folio: 98 Page: 3 Reg. District: Liverpool Sub District: St Martin Parish: Liverpool Enum. District: 40 Ecclesiastical District: St Aidens City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: 19, Townsend Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MCINTYRE, Patrick Head Married M 36 1855 Labourer Dock Ireland MCINTYRE, Mary Wife Married F 37 1854 Ireland MCINTYRE, Alice Daughter Single F 17 1874 Hawker Ireland MCINTYRE, Susanna Daughter Single F 15 1876 Hawker Ireland MCINTYRE, James Son M 13 1878 Scholar Ireland MCINTYRE, Patrick Son M 7 1884 Scholar Liverpool MCINTYRE, Thomas Son M 4 1887 Scholar Liverpool MCINTYRE, Michael Son M 1 1890 Liverpool FLANAGAN, Thomas Brother In Law M 28 1863 Dock Labourer Ireland FLANAGAN, Catherine Sister In Law F 30 1861 Domestic Servant Ireland
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24 Jun 2013 09:37 |
Patrick's place of birth on 1911 gives - C. Dublin, Co. Down, Ireland
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Jun 2013 09:52 |
Connected family http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1326906
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mgnv
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24 Jun 2013 12:18 |
1901 England Census Transcription Street:200 ARLINGTON STREET Parish:KIRKDALE Town: City: County:Lancashire Country:ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District:ST AIDANS Municipal Ward:SANDHILLS Parliamentary Borough:KIRKDALE Registration District:WEST DERBY Registration Sub-District: Kirkdale Enumeration District:32 Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:3470 Folio:44 Page:35
PATRICK MCINTYRE 1854 47 Ireland HEAD W Dock Labourer PATRICK MCINTYRE 1884 17 Lpool, Lanc SON Dock Labourer THOMAS MCINTYRE 1887 14 Lpool, Lanc SON MICHAEL MCINTYRE 1890 11 Lpool, Lanc SON
Deaths Dec 1900 (>99%) McIntyre Mary Elizabeth 49 W. Derby 8b 357
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24 Jun 2013 13:20 |
For Ref.
Robert Proctor married Dora Brierley 1889 St Nicholas' Liverpool Jane b 1893 was Baptised St Joseph's Georgina b.1897 was Baptised St.Francis Xavier Rbt Edward b 1898 was Baptised St Nicholas'
Thomas McIntyre Baptised 1886 St Albans Michael Baptised 1889 St Albans
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Maura
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24 Jun 2013 14:30 |
Alice, Susanna & James where baptised in Annaghlone Co. Down rootsireland.ie
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Eringobragh1916
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24 Jun 2013 18:37 |
Alice (b 1874) married Ernest Albert Crook at St James RC Church Bootle 1895.. I dont have access for 1901Census to check for details..she is living Kirkdale West Derby.
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25 Jun 2013 08:58 |
I would suggest that from now on, we keep this thread for the UK stuff, and put the Canadian stuff on: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1326906 [I'll edit this if Georgina says otherwise]
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25 Jun 2013 11:06 |
Georgina
If you don't know about freebmd........check it out. You'll find it invaluable
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
As you will the following site................
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Look at them both, and make yourself familiar with how to use them.......you'll be glad you did
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alviegal
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25 Jun 2013 11:57 |
Here is Alice Eringobragh
1901 census transcription details for: 18, Priam Street, Kirkdale Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 3471 Folio: 67 Page: 24 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: Kirkdale Parish: Kirkdale Enum. District: 39 Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls City/Municipal Borough: Address: 18, Priam Street, Kirkdale County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born CROOK, Ernest A Head Married M 33 1868 Dock Labourer Plymouth, Devonshire CROOK, Alice Wife Married F 27 1874 Ireland CROOK, William H Son M 3 1898 Lpool CROOK, Laura J Mother Widow F 58 1843 Plymouth CONNOR, Lawrence W Head Married M 29 1872 Boiler Maker Bootle CONNOR, Susannah Wife Married F 25 1876 Ireland CONNOR, Mary Daughter F 1 1900 Lpool
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: CROOK, Alice Registration district: West Derby County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1901 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 28 Volume no: 8B Page no: 292
Possibly died in childbirth or soon after as there is the death of Ernest Albert in 1902, West Derby, aged 0.
Ernest's 2nd marriage.
Marriage: 9 Feb 1909 St Ignatius, Salford, Lancashire, England Ernest Albert Crook - 40, Stoker, Widower, 92 Phoebe Street Elizabeth Jane Bath - 39, Weaver, Spinster, 20 West Howard Street Groom's Father: William Henry Crook, (deceased), Mariner Bride's Father: Robert Bath, (deceased), Tailor Witness: John William Harwood; Polly Harwood Married by Banns by: R.A.E. Bell (Rector) Register: Marriages 1906 - 1920, Page 47, Entry 93 Source: Parish Register
1911 census transcription details for: 20 West Howard St Salford Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN24063 RG78PN1384 RD465 SD4 ED20 SN317 Reg. District: Salford Sub District: Regent Road Parish: Salford Enum. District: 20 Address: 20 West Howard St Salford County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born HARWOOD, John William Head Married M 32 1879 Foreman Wheelwright Hull Yks Hessle HARWOOD, Rolly Wife Married 7 years F 34 1877 Lancs Salford HARWOOD, Edith Daughter F 6 1905 School Lancs Salford BATH, Sarah M In Law Widow F 74 1837 Cornwall Liskeard CROOK, Elizabeth Jane Sister In Law Married 2 years F 41 1870 Cornwall Liskeard
They then emigrated.
Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945 about Elizth jane Crook Name: Elizth jane Crook Arrival Date: 15 May 1911 Age: 41 Years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Gender: Female Ethnic Background: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Merion Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Friend's Name: Ernest Albert Crook Last Residence: England Birthplace: Liskeard, England Microfilm Roll Number: T840_89
She was with 13 yr old William Henry and they were travelling to NY.
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25 Jun 2013 12:35 |
Thanks a million for that ...!! Had asked "Debbie" to check 1911 for me (on Georgina's behalf) so as I wasnt sending her up the wrong road with Ernest A Crook.... He is listed 1881 living Salford nephew to Walter Winter and family (all b Devon) except Harriet Eliz.Crook niece (sister to Ernest) b Bootle.... 1891 has EA living Kirkdale with ?parents but Harriet is still in Salford.... So Ernest remarried back in Salford mmm
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alviegal
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25 Jun 2013 12:56 |
Young William Henry in 1901.
1911 census transcription details for: 92 Phoebe Street Regent Road Salford Print Close
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RG14PN24061 RG78PN1384 RD465 SD4 ED18 SN169 Reg. District: Salford Sub District: Regent Road Parish: Salford Enum. District: 18 Address: 92 Phoebe Street Regent Road Salford County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born MATTHEWS, George Edwin Head Married M 49 1862 Tool Grinder Plymouth Devon MATTHEWS, Elizabeth Wife Married 29 years F 51 1860 Salford Lanc MATTHEWS, Walter Son Single M 24 1887 Iron Turner Salford Lanc MATTHEWS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 22 1889 Dressmaker Salford Lanc MATTHEWS, Eleanor Daughter Single F 19 1892 Assistant Drapery Salford Lanc CROOK, William Cousin M 13 1898 School Liverpool Lanc MATTHEWS, William Adopted Son M 12 1899 School Salford Lanc RHODES, Ernest Boarder M 5 1906 Salford Lanc RHODES, Edith Boarder F 4 1907 Salford Lanc
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25 Jun 2013 13:51 |
Its going to get complicated...!!
This is Ernests family 1881
Census, 1881"Name: Laura Jane Crook Age (Original): 37 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1844 Birthplace: Torquay, Devon, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Widow Occupation: Charwoman Address: 110 Balliol Rd Event Place: Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancashire, England Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Laura Jane Crook F 37 Torquay, Devon, England Daughter Isabella Crook F 19 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Edwin Geo Crook M 10 Walton, Lancashire, England Son Wm James Crook M 6 Walton, Lancashire, England
Laura Watkins married Wm Henry Crook 1859 Devon... Laura's mother is Elizabeth and living with the Winter family Salford (1881) Both Edwin and Wm James were Baptised St Peters L.Pool
Edwin Ge. Birth reg West Derby June Quarter 1870 8b 476 Wm James Birth reg west Derby June quarter 1875 8b 470
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25 Jun 2013 13:58 |
Registered Plymouth Dec.Quarter 1859
Name: William Henry Crook Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 1859 Event Place: Devon Age: 23 Birth Year (Estimated): 1836 Spouse's Name: Laura Jane Watkins
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25 Jun 2013 14:03 |
Just for re ference......
Census, 1881"Name: Walter Winter Age (Original): 42 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1839 Birthplace: Toybridge, Devon, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Iron Labourer Address: 105 West Worsley St Event Place: Salford, Lancashire, England Disability: Blind Record Type: Household
Head Walter Winter M 42 Toybridge, Devon, Wife Mary E Winter F 38 Newton Abbott, Devon ,***Mother In Law Elizabeth Watkins F 67 Newton Bushel, Devon, Son George E M Winter M 19 Plymouth, Devon, England Brother In Law Edward C Watkins M 28 Newton Abbott, Devon, England ***Nephew Ernest A Crook M 13 Plymouth, Devon, ***Niece Harriet E Crook F 7 Bootle, Lancashire,
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25 Jun 2013 17:13 |
Georgina....The thread posted by ***Alviegal*** (11.57) above shows Alice and Ernest 1901....you will note the Connor family Susannah "McIntyre" Connor is sister of Alice...she married Lawrence W.Connor (Widower) Reg. Dec Quarter 1898 8b 100 ... They married St Annes CE Church L.Pool
Lawrence Walter Connor had been previously married to a Marie Grainger Reg Dec Quarter 1893 L'Pool 8b 98. They married at All saints L.Pool she obviously died before he married Susannah but I cant find her death....
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25 Jun 2013 22:17 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CROOK Ernest A MCINTYRE Alice West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/159/72
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1904 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CROOK Ernest A HAGEN Isabella Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/94/71
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%) Crook Ernest Albert Salford 8d 211 Hagen Isabella Salford 8d 211
Deaths Sep 1905 (>99%) Crook Isabella 35 Salford 8d 120
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CROOK Ernest A BATH Elizabeth J Salford St Ignatius Salford C28/2/93
We have Alviegal's transcription of the marr from: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ but lets ignore this for now, and look at an alternative way of finding the image.
Although FS call the collection: England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910 it's really Greater Manchester, and there's nothing there west of Irlam nor north of Bolton.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND Follow the path below and pick "Browse through 392,897 images": England, Lancashire, Ches...rish Registers, 1603-1910 > Lancashire > Salford, St Ignatius > Marriages, 1906-1920 > Image 48 of 251
From LancsBMD we have the ref C28/2/93 - C28 is the church code (Salford, St Ignatius); 2 is the marr rego # (and covered 1906-1920, but only parts of the start/end years), and 93 is the entry #. At 2 entries per page, entry# 93 should fall on page 47 (round fractions up - entry 1 is on page 1). However, there are 251 images here, not the normal 250, so there's an extra image somewhere. Image 47 has entries 91-92, so we need to look at the next image.
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26 Jun 2013 08:32 |
mgnv...I learn something new every day.... (re familysearch) I never knew that....usually have to end up browsing through the lot...!!! Thanks for the info.
So Ernest A married 3 times...didnt see that coming...!
What prompted you to look for another marriage...? Just goes to show what another pair of eyes can find
Cannot so far connect the Matthews family (1911 Census Salford) where young Wm Henry Crook is living as "Cousin" ....but it must be from the Matthews (Plymouth ) side of the family ..Elizabeth the wife b Salford was nee Stennet.
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