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6 Jun 2013 11:34 |
Am most grateful MarieCeleste for the information you acquired for me....Yes, am sure you are right re going to New Zealand. Wow..... will have to digest the wonderful help which has come forth...... and thanks so much for the marriage information - appreciated very much. Lyn.
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MarieCeleste
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6 Jun 2013 08:36 |
Have sent Lyn the marriage certificate for Ethel and James Ewart (had spare credits for Scotland's People that would expire before I used them).
1912 EWART JAMES MCMASTER ETHEL CAMLACHIE GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
Ethel names her parents as Agnes McMaster and John McMaster, a bottle packer. I suspect she may have been trying to cover up illegitimacy.
She was living Glasgow.
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6 Jun 2013 08:24 |
If that tree is right then Ethel went to New Zealand:
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mrs Ethel Ewart Gender: Female Age: 29 Birth Date: abt 1891 Departure Date: 2 Dec 1920 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand Ship Name: Ruahine Shipping Line: The New Zealand Shipping Company, Limited Official Number: 124582 Master: E T Smith
Travelling with Jas 37, a steelworker. Children John 6, Jessie 3 and Jas 1.
They had lived Scotland.
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MarieCeleste
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6 Jun 2013 08:19 |
There is an unsourced tree on ancestry has an Ethel McMaster (no parents given) as born 21 Oct 1891 in St Helen's, Lancs. Apparently married a James Ewart b 1882 Glasgow.
If you don't have access to Ancestry you can search and view public trees for free on their sister site Mundia http://www.mundia.com/gb/
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MarieCeleste
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6 Jun 2013 08:11 |
I think you'd need to buy Ethel's birth certificate to confirm her parent(s)
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ethel McMaster Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1890 Registration District: Prescot Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 694
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Oyster
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6 Jun 2013 04:52 |
Yes, have seen Joseph's name typed "Joseph/John"
Am wondering if Ethel is Agnes Frances' daughter?
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MargaretM
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6 Jun 2013 04:16 |
Now I'm getting confused! Must be bedtime! This 1901 census has the same 3 sons, John, William & George right ages but sons of John & Jane and Ethel is a grandaughter:
1901 England Census about Ethel McMaster Name: Ethel McMaster Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Prescot Sub-registration District: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 112 Piece: 3519 Folio: 111 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age John McMaster 59 Jane McMaster 56 John McMaster 26 William McMaster 20 George McMaster 15 Ethel McMaster 10
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MargaretM
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6 Jun 2013 03:56 |
Agnes & Ethel in 1891 but father is Joseph not John:
1891 England Census about Agnes F McMaster Name: Agnes F McMaster Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph McMaster Mother's Name: Agnes McMaster Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Parr Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: St Helens County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration District: Prescot Sub-registration District: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3023 Folio: 102 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Joseph McMaster 48 Agnes McMaster 46 Agnes F McMaster 18 John McMaster 16 James B McMaster 13 William McMaster 10 Eliza J McMaster 8 George McMaster 5 Ethel McMaster 5/12
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Oyster
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6 Jun 2013 03:50 |
Agnes Frances McMaster b Lanarkshire m Samuel Glover b Lancashire, England, 24th December 1892
Very pleased to have above information and Census info ....thanks to Jax and Margee.
Did you find Ethel McMaster b 21 Oct 1890 in Lancashire?... cannot confirm her parents. Notef she wasn't on the 1911 Census but was born in 1890 so may well have left home by then.
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MargaretM
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6 Jun 2013 03:44 |
1901 England Census about Samuel Glover Name: Samuel Glover Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Agnes F Glover Gender: Male Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Prescot Sub-registration District: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 242 Piece: 3520 Folio: 106 Page Number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Glover 30 Agnes F Glover 28 Frederick Glover 7 Agnes F Glover 5 Edith Glover 3 Samuel Glover 1 William Glover 5 Months
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MargaretM
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6 Jun 2013 03:33 |
1911 England Census about Agnes Frances Glover Name: Agnes Frances Glover Age in 1911: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland Civil Parish: St Helens County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 76 Morley St St Helens Lanc Marital Status: Married Registration District: Prescot Registration District Number: 456 Sub-registration District: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 22759 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Glover 40 Agnes Frances Glover 38 Frederick Glover 17 Agnes Frances Glover 15 Edith Glover 13 William Glover 10
Married 18 years, 6 children, 4 still living.
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MargaretM
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6 Jun 2013 03:25 |
Is this your Agnes Frances?
Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GLOVER Samuel Prescot 8b 1037 Hope Henry Prescot 8b 1037 McMASTER Agnes Frances Prescot 8b 1037 Owen Ann Jane Prescot 8b 1037
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Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 about Agnes Frances McMaster Name: Agnes Frances McMaster Age: 20 Birth Year: abt 1872 Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Dec 1892 Parish: Parr Spouse: Samuel Glover Spouse Age: 22 Father: John McMaster Spouse Father: Thomas Glover Reference Number: Pr 3400/1/13
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jax
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6 Jun 2013 03:01 |
Were they Scottish?
When did this marriage take place?
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Oyster
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6 Jun 2013 02:30 |
Looking for children of above couple and in particular daughter Agnes Frances McMaster and her husband and children.
Lyn.
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