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Hi all, hope someone can help.
I'm doing a tree for a friend and I’m trying to track down Theophilis George born abt 1863 in Stafford.
I’ve got him in the 1911 census married to Edith Unknown along with 5 children.
In 1901 still married to Edith with the one child (Florence)

I can’t find any other trace of him before that –I’ve tried various spellings but he’s disappeared (no trace of his marriage either) any ideas please?

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Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)
Dyer Harry Manton Aston 6d 817
George Theophilius Aston 6d 817
Harris Hannah Sophia Aston 6d 817
Hitch Edith Aston 6d 817

Thanks -so we've got his wife at least.

Terry

Which sites have you looked at?

I'm using Ancestry

No sign of him on FMP pre-1901

Your friend may have to resort to buying the marriage cert, to see if he knew his father

Looks like it -at least we can do that now we have the wife.
Thanks everyone for trying.

Terry

Just for reference

1901 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 69 Regent Street
Civil Parish Walsall
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Andrews
Parliamentary Borough or Division Walsall
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Walsall
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name Edith George
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Stafford Walsall
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Florence E George
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 1
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Warwick B.gham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Theophilus George
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 40
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Milk Retailer Seller
Employment Status
Where Born Stafford Stafford
Language
Infirmity

Thanks Frank

T

Can someone take a look at this image. It's not how it's been transcribed



1871 England Census
Name:Thomasine George
Age:12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859

Relation:
Son

Father's Name:
John George

Mother's Name:
Jane George

Where born:
Wednesfield, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:
Wednesfield
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Thomas
County/Island:
Staffordshire
Country:
England
Registration District:
Wolverhampton

Sub-registration District:
Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel:24
Household Schedule Number:8 Piece:2947

Folio:20 Page Number:2

John George 27
Jane George 36
Mary Ann George 14
Thomasine George 12
John E George 7
Sarah George 4
Ann M George 3
Elora George 11 Months

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Mary Ann George in household of John George, "England and Wales Census, 1871"
Name: Mary Ann George
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-District: Willenhall
Parish: Wednesfield
County: Staffordshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self John George M 47 Lilleshall, Shropshire
Wife Jane George F 36 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Daughter Mary Ann George F 14 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Son Thomas N George M 12 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Son John E George M 7 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Daughter Sarah J George F 4 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Daughter Ann M George F 3 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Son Edward George M 0 Wednesfield, Staffordshire

found here https://familysearch.org

HI safc

Thanks for that, can you have a look at the image as it doesn't look like either of the transcriptions above

Could be Gins -think I'm going to need that marriage certificate though.

T

County Staffordshire
Place Wednesfield
Church St Thomas
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 24 Apr 1870
Forename Edward
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Jane
FatherSurname GEORGE
MotherSurname
Abode New Cross
FatherOccupation Miner
Notes
FileNumber 28099

Yeah, get the certificate, with any luck a sibling might be a witness and of course his father should be named, if he knew him

I will, but it's looking more and more like you're right


ta Gins

And thanks to everyone else who put their two penneth in for me too.

Terry

Is this the son

George, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Frank Arthur George
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 Sep 1909
Christening Place: Christ Church, Coseley, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Theophilus George
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Edith
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06812-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470590
Reference ID: 2411
Sources

I had a look at the image of that 1871 census and I'd say the name for the lad born in 1859 is Thomas W.

This is that family in 1861:

GEORGE, John Head Married M 27 1834 Coal Miner Salop
GEORGE, Jane Wife Married F 26 1835 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
GEORGE, Mary ... Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Wednesfield, Staffordshire
GEORGE, Thomas H Son M 2 1859 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
GEORGE, Edward Brother Unmarried M 25 1836 Coal Miner Salop
INFANT Son M 0 (12H) 1861 Wednesfield, Staffordshire

Piece: 2003 Folio: 80 Page: 3
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Civil Parish: Wednesfield

Address: 17, New Cross, Wednesfield County: Staffordshire

Although it's been transcribed as Thomas H here, it's definitely a "W" on the image.

Thanks MC...................

The certificate is defo needed then

Yes, looks like it. I can't find a definite death for Theophilus, there's a chap of the same name died 1944, but I've found his birth in 1866 in Solihull and tracked him through census so a different person.

I'm wondering if Theophilus was an assumed name.