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Trying to trace my mother's family please help.

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Jayne

Jayne Report 5 Jun 2013 16:23

Talking to one of my sisters. Lilian, was not my mum's sister only her half sister. Trying to find out if mum had had any blood siblings. :-S

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Jun 2013 10:49

I have just ordered a copy of my mother's birth cert. Lets hope this can give me the details I am looking for.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Jun 2013 09:31

Death

Name: GROOM, Harry J A
Registration district: Bathavon
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1960
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:73
Volume no: 7C
Page no: 101

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Jun 2013 23:19

Hello Jayne, you can order copies of certificates from the General Register Office (GRO) - they cost £9.25 inc postage
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

The records posted above give you the necessary references.

Jayne

Jayne Report 2 Jun 2013 23:16

Please can any one tell me how I go about getting copies of marriage certs please. Thanks for all the replies, it is much appreciated. Jayne

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jun 2013 21:52

Looks like James re-married in 1951. What a sad story. Also cannot see any children to the marriage, so looks like a dead end.
Also, sadly, Nellie died in infancy.
The marriage found above is a strong possibility, but without more evidence I wouldn't be certain. I do think if it were me I would get a copy of the marriage cert, which would be nice to have anyway!
jan

Jayne

Jayne Report 2 Jun 2013 21:39

YES!! Lilian Stack must have been mum's sister. I remember an auntie Lil that mum talked about. It was very sad because this auntie was in Barrow Gurney which was a Mental institution in Bristol. Mum used to visit her. :-(

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jun 2013 21:07

? sister?

Marriages Mar 1944 (>99%)
GROOM Lilian Stack Bristol 6a 231
STACK James H Groom Bristol 6a 231

patchem

patchem Report 2 Jun 2013 21:02

1911 England Census
Ruby Fisher Age in 1911: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire Civil Parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Street Address: 136 Pennywell Rd, Bristol
Marital Status: Single Occupation: Chocolate Manufacture Packer
Registration District: Bristol Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration District: St Philip and St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household Schedule Number: 292 Piece: 15008
Ruben Fisher 61 Plymouth
Clara Fisher 36 Bristol married 17 years
Ernest Fisher 13
Ruby Fisher 16
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 15008; Schedule Number: 292.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jun 2013 20:56

This must be the above Ruby - she lived a long life so might not be your grandmother?

Name: Ruby Mary A Groom
Birth Date: 13 May 1894
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1981
Age at Death: 86
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 0493

I wonder if it might be an idea to get your mother's marriage cert?

Marriages Jun 1939
Groom Marie Winter Bristol 6a 609
Winter Walter H Groom Bristol 6a 609

Jan

patchem

patchem Report 2 Jun 2013 20:56

When and where did your Mother die, please?

Christine

Christine Report 2 Jun 2013 20:55

Marriages Sep 1880
Cook Harriett Barton R. 6a 271
Groom Thomas Barton R. 6a 271 <<
Hicks Ivan Barton R. 6a 271
Plenty Marion Jenkins Barton R 6a 271 <<

In alphabetical order rather than couples, but names were fairly unusual.

Christine

Christine Report 2 Jun 2013 20:52

1891

Address 92, Richmond Road
Parish St James & St Paul Out
District Barton Regis, Ashley
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Householder 1
Name Thomas Groom
Age 36
Estimated Year of Birth 1855
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Jeweller
Birth Place Wellington
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 2
Name Marion J Groom
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Kingswood
Birth County Gloucestershire
Householder 3
Name Harry J A Groom
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Bristol
Birth County

Christine

Christine Report 2 Jun 2013 20:49

1901

Address 12 Kingsley Rd
Civil Parish Bristol
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mark Easton
Parliamentary Borough or Division Bristol East
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Bristol
Administrative County Bristol
Householder 1
Name Harry J A Groom
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 14
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Grocers Postal Clerk
Employment Status
Where Born Glos Bristol
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Marion J Groom
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 44
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glos Kingswood
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Richard W Groom
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glos Bristol
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Thomas Groom
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 46
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Ledger Clerk Commercial
Employment Status
Where Born Shrops Wellington
Language
Infirmity
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jun 2013 20:47

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
GROOM Harry James A Barton R. 6a 77

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jun 2013 20:47

Jayne, just in case you aren't aware, all the above can be accessed for free here:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Siblings? Born before the above marriage, but not unheard of!

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Groom Nellie Fisher Bristol 6a 319

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
GROOM Lily Fisher Bristol 6a 377





Christine

Christine Report 2 Jun 2013 20:45

Barton Regis was a Bristol Registration District:

Births Mar 1887
GROOM Harry James A Barton R. 6a 77

Births Jun 1894
Fisher Ruby Mary A Bristol 6a 26

Ah! Perhaps the initial A stood for Alfred?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jun 2013 20:44

Must be the parents of the above:

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Fisher Ruby M A Groom Bristol 6a 135
Groom Harry J A Fisher Bristol 6a 135

Jan

Christine

Christine Report 2 Jun 2013 20:41

Possible marriage of parents - but not an Alfred?

Marriages Sep 1919
Fisher Ruby M A Groom Bristol 6a 135
Groom Harry J A Fisher Bristol 6a 135

Christine

Christine Report 2 Jun 2013 20:38

Hi Jayne

There is no middle initial given for your mother on the marriage index on FreeBMD.

Could this be her?

Births Mar 1920
Groom Marie Fisher Bristol 6a 80

This is the March Quarter for births registered Jan-March. Parents had 6 weeks to register, so this would cover a December birth.

Fisher was the mother's maiden name.