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Margaret J franklin b.1892 not in census records?

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Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:08

Margaret is my grandmother, but cant find her anywhere in the census. Found her birth record and marriage record. She missing from the two census records? Any clues as to why, and have tried all variations of Margaret...

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 May 2013 00:10

Born where ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 May 2013 00:11

So you do not have her marriage or birth certs just the registration details - both would be very useful

Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:12

She was born in Islington , London

Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:15

she married a James smith in 1914 I think in shoreditch

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 May 2013 00:15

You need her parents names from the birth cert

Births Dec 1892
Franklin Margaret Jane - Islington 1b 297

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 May 2013 00:18

I think you need her birth certificate so you know who her parents were. This would make it easier to find her in the census records.

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 May 2013 00:18

Possibly

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Margaret Jane Franklin
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1892
Father's Name: William John Franklin - Bricklayer
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Caroline Franklin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Pentonville St James
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Lived 30 Wharfdale Road

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 May 2013 00:18

Name: Margaret Jane Franklin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 21
Spouse Name: James Albert Smith
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Mar 1914
Parish: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William John Franklin - bricklayer
Spouse Father Name: William Smith
Register Type: Parish Register

One witness was Maryann Franklin

She gave her address as 7 New North Road

Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:18

ok..thanks . I don't have her birth cert yet.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 May 2013 00:19

Her marriage:-


Name: FRANKLIN, Margaret J
Registration district: Shoreditch
County: London
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Smith
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 132

Name: SMITH, James A
Registration district: Shoreditch
County: London
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Franklin
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 132

Kath. x

Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:20

that's brilliant ..thanks for replies :-)

Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:24

Thanks MarieCeleste

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 May 2013 00:24

Could this be her in the 1911 census using her middle name:-

1911 census transcription details for: 43 Hastings ST

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN695 RG78PN24 RD9 SD2 ED12 SN126
Reg. District: St Pancras
Sub District: South St Pancras
Parish: St Pancras
Enum. District: 12

Address: 43 Hastings ST
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

LEFCOVITCH, Abraham Head Married M 22 1889 Hairdresser Russian Poland
LEFCOVITCH, Golda Wife Married
2 years F 22 1889 London Holborn
LEFCOVITCH, Deborah Daughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 London Westminster
FRANKLIN, Jane Sister In Law Single F 17 1894 Tailoress London Westminster<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Could Golda Lefcovitch be her sister? There is this marriage:-


Name: FRANKLIN, Golda
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
County: London
Year of registration: 1910
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 599

MarriageFinder: Golda Franklin married one of the following people:

KAPACHINSKY, Jacob
KAPISCINSKI, Jacob
LEFCOVITCH, Abraham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
GOLDBERG, Annie

and also this birth:-


Name: FRANKLIN, Golda
Registration district: Holborn
County: London
Year of registration: 1889
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 629

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 May 2013 00:27

Could be a brother


Name: William Martin Franklin
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jan 1898
Father's Name: William John Franklin
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Franklin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers


Father is a bricklayer

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 May 2013 00:30

Could this be her with her family in the 1901 census (Gussy could be short for Golda and father is a bricklayer):-

1901 census transcription details for: 26, Linwood Place, Newington

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 372
Folio: 85
Page: 39
Reg. District: St Saviour Southwark
Sub District: Trinity Newington
Parish: Newington
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 26, Linwood Place, Newington
County: London

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

FRANKLIN, William Head Married M 31 1870 Bricklayer
St Lukes
FRANKLIN, Mary Wife Married F 29 1872
St Lukes
FRANKLIN, Gussy Daughter Single F 6 1895
St Lukes
FRANKLIN, Jane Daughter Single F 8 1893<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
St Lukes
FRANKLIN, Betty Daughter Single F 5 1896
St Lukes
FRANKLIN, William Son Single M 3 1898
St Lukes
FRANKLIN, May Daughter Single F 1 1900
St Lukes

EDIT - this would match with what GlitterBaby found.

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 May 2013 00:37

1911 poss

Name: William John Franklin
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oxton - Hoxton on image
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 143 St Johns Road, Hoxton N
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: BRICKLAYER
Registration District: Shoreditch
Registration District Number: 16
Sub-registration District: Shoreditch North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 1357
Household Members: Name Age
William John Franklin 41
Mary Franklin 39
William Franklin 13
Alice Franklin 9
George Franklin 7
Arthur Franklin 5
Martin N Franklin 2
Alfred Franklin 0

Susan

Susan Report 30 May 2013 00:38

That very interesting...possible alright just going over it again...thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 May 2013 00:38

Could be two families with similar names for mother and father

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 May 2013 00:40

Oh bother looking at that 1911 census it says 6 children born and 6 still alive