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Stanley Walter H Payne

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 May 2013 10:26

Unfortunately I can't find a free source for the earlier records of Fivehead online, to look for a baptism for Samuel.

I found this electronic copy of Phillimore's marriages ( Somerset vol 5)

https://dcms.lds.org/view/action/ieViewer.do?dps_pid=IE92907&dps_dvs=1369646305304~975&dps_pid=IE92907&change_lng=en

which records the marriage of Samuel Payne and Hester Howe as 14th April 1807.
(on page 122)

Somerset_Bloke

Somerset_Bloke Report 26 May 2013 23:50

Wow....This is all great....going to have start getting it all sorted....thanks to you Mike and Kucinta.....
Wayne

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:39

Samuel and Hester in census 1841: Age of over 15s should have been rounded down to the nearest five years in census 1841, so Samuel and Hester could have been born c1787-1791 in Somerset.

Census 1841:

Address: Fivehead, FiveheadCounty: Somersetshire

PAYNE, Samuel M 50 1791 Somerset Ag lab
PAYNE, Hester F 50 1791 Somerset
PAYNE, Jane F 15 1826 Somerset
PAYNE, Charles M 10 1831 Somerset

Same family in 1851, with birthplaces for Samuel and Hester.

Address: Cottage, Fivehead County: Somersetshire

PAYN, Saml Head Married M 64 1787 Ag Lab Fivehead, Somerset<<<<
PAYN, Hester Wife Married F 63 1788 Swell, Somerset<<<<<<<<<
PAYN, Charles Son Unmarried M 23 1828 Thatcher Fivehead, Somerset

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:27

These free transcriptions show that Henry Payne baptised 1813 was the child of Samuel Payne and Hester Howe:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pinks/somerset/fivehead/Fivehead_Baptisms_1813-1898.htm

EDIT: The spelling of 'Payne' varies.

There is at least one other Payne-Howe couple, James Payne and Rhoda Howe.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:21

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Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837

Name: Saml Payne
Spouse: Hester?? Howe
Marriage Date: 1807
Parish: Fivehead Somerset

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:16

Is this a sibling of Henry senior? Appears to give a maiden name for Hester.


Name: Fanny Payne
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Feb 1808
Christening Place: Fivehead, Somerset, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Payne<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hester Howe<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00079-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470972
Reference ID: item 20

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:10

Baptism of Henry senior?

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Henry Payne
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Feb 1813
Christening Place: Fivehead, Somerset, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Payne
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hester
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02894-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470972
Reference ID: item 21 LN3


From free site:

https://familysearch.org

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:03

????

Langport covers Isle Brewers and Fivehead

Marriages Dec 1839
CATTLE Caroline Langport 10 629 <<<<<<<<<<<
Lucas Sarah Langport 10 629
Lye Charles Langport 10 629
Paul Harriet Langport 10 629
Payne Henry Langport 10 629 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
TRASK Elizabeth Langport 10 629
TRAVIS Samuel Langport 10 629
WEST Charles Langport 10 629

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 23:01

Same family in 1851, before Henry c1850/1''s birth:

Address: White Hall Buildings, Saint James, Taunton County: Somersetshire

PAYNE, Henry Head Married M 36 1815 Railway Porter Hifehead,Somerset<<<<<<<<<<<
PAYNE, Caroline Wife Married F 38 1813 Isle Brewers, Somerset<<<
PAYNE, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Scholar
Bath, Somerset
PAYNE, Charles Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Scholar
Taunton, Somerset
PAYNE, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847 Scholar
Taunton, Somerset
PAYNE, William Son Unmarried M 1 1850 Taunton, Somerset

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 May 2013 22:57

???

Births Mar 1852 PAYNE Henry Taunton 5c 442

1861:

Address: Bow Street, Langport County: Somersetshire

PAYNE, Henry Head Married M 47 1814 Railway Porter Fitzhead, Somerset<<<<<<<<<
PAYNE, Caroline Wife Married F 46 1815 Isle Brewers, Somerset<<<
PAYNE, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 22 1839 Grocer Bath, Somerset
PAYNE, Charles Son M 18 1843 Apprentice On The Shop Taunton, Somerset
PAYNE, Jane Daughter F 15 1846 Apprentice On The Shop
Taunton, Somerset
PAYNE, Henry Son M 10 1851 Scholar Taunton, Somerset<<<<<<

Census 1871:

Address: Goldsmith Street, St Paul, Exeter County: Devonshire

SHAPLAND, James Head M 28 1843 Devon
SHAPLAND, Ann Wife F 35 1836 Devon
SALTER, Frederick W Step-Son M 11 1860 Devon
SHAPLAND, Sydney J Son M 5 1866 Devon
SHAPLAND, Arthur Son M 2 1869 Devon
WEBBER, Elizabeth Niece F 12 1859 Devon
PAYNE, Henry Boarder M 21 1850 Somerset Taunton Telegraphier<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ROWE, John Boarder M 26 1845 Devon
WATERMAN, Herbert T Boarder M 17 1854 Somerset

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 May 2013 20:18

1881

Henry Payne 29 - civil service telegraph supt
Harriett T. Payne 30
Edward D.R. Payne 9
Frank J. Payne 7
Ernest A.H. Payne 5
Reginald S. Payne 11months






Mike *

Mike * Report 26 May 2013 20:12

Marriages Jun 1871

Chubb Joseph William Yeovil 5c 791
Kaines Emma Yeovil 5c 791
***Payne Henry - Yeovil 5c 791
***Ridout Harriet Frances - Yeovil 5c 791

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 May 2013 20:09

Is Frances H and Harriet F the same wife ?

1891

Henry Payne 39 - Superintendant of Telegraphy ( "elect" written over it )
Harriet F Payne 40
Edward D Payne 19
Frank J Payne 17
Ernest A Payne 15
Reginald S Payne 10

Maud B Martin 10 -Niece

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 May 2013 19:59

1901

Harry Payne 49 - post office official - Taunton
wife Frances H Payne 50 - Yeovil
son Reginald S Payne 20 - draper's assistant -
Taunton, Somerset





Mike *

Mike * Report 26 May 2013 19:55


Birth certificate

Stanley Walter H Payne
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1905
Registration District:Taunton
Inferred County:Somerset

Volume:5c
Page:272

Somerset_Bloke

Somerset_Bloke Report 26 May 2013 19:30

Thanks you MarieCeleste...That is a great help....My Father-in-law said thanks you aswell...
Wayne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2013 19:28

You should be able to find Reginald and Naomi's marriage on FreeBMD and then look for any post 1911 births using their combination of surnames.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2013 19:25

1911 census:

PAYNE, Reginald Stanley Head Married M 30 1881 Draper Taunton Somerset
PAYNE, Lily Naomi Wife Married 6 years F 27 1884 West Monkton Som
PAYNE, Stanley Walter Henry Son M 5 1906 School West Monkton Som
PAYNE, Naomi Francis Daughter F 2 1909 Taunton Som

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14233
Reference: RG14PN14233 RG78PN854 RD305 SD2 ED14 SN88
Registration District: Taunton
Sub District: North Curry
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Thorn Falcon

Address: Thornfalcon Taunton County: Somersetshire

They were the only 2 children born at that time.

Somerset_Bloke

Somerset_Bloke Report 26 May 2013 19:23

He is my Father-in-laws Grandfather....and am adding his side of my family tree for my kids to see both sides of their heritage.....thanks
Wayne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2013 19:21

Hello Wayne, how did you connect to him?