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Margaret
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23 May 2013 12:07 |
Is it possible for someone who has a sub to the Military records on Genes to do a lookup please? Howard Charles Waldron under Royal Marine Medal Roll 1914-1920 Rank Musician, Soldier # Rmb1735
Any further info would be a great find. Thanks for any help. :-)
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23 May 2013 12:40 |
Royal Marines Medal Roll 1914-1920 - details First name(s): Howard Charles Last name: WALDRON Number: RMB/1735 Rank: Musician Awards: Medals & clasps earned: 1914-15 Star, Victory & British War Medals How issued or disposed of: HMS "Pembroke" Service branch: Royal Marine Band Unit: Date of death: not known Cause of death: Remarks: Notes: Discharged with Bonus on Reduction. The author has added extra information to many of the fields in the transcripts of the records. This means that, unusually, you are likely to find more detail on the transcript than the original image
You can download his record from the Nat. Archives, will cost you £3-36
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/D7799060?uri=D7799060
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23 May 2013 12:51 |
First Name:
Howard Charles
Initials:
H
Surname:
Waldron
Nationality:
British
Service Number:
1735
Service From Date:
1910-05-19
Service:
Royal Marines
Division:
royal marines band
More information about Royal Marines Band Formed: 1903
The Royal Marines Band Service is a unique musical blend of versatility, talent and traditions, on top of which is has an important medical and military role as part of a fighting force. There motto Per Mare Per Terram (By Sea by Land) (Latin)
Musicians have existed within the Armed forces for many years but in 1767 Royal Marines Divisional Bands were formed at Chatham, Plymouth, Portsmouth and Deal. The development of music in the Royal Marines is linked to British military Bands. The beat of the drum enabled columns of marching men to keep regular step. The drum was the method of giving signals on the Battlefield or in camp. Many years ago the drummer’s rhythm would notify the soldiers’ the changing watches or beat the men to quarters. In the six companies of the Duke of York and Albany's Regiment of Foot - the forerunners of the Royal Marines - which were raised in 1664 - the Colour and the Drum provided a rallying point in close battle. This is why even today it is the drums and bugles of the Royal Marines Buglers Branch which lead the band on parade.
Now the Royal Marines Band Service is immaculately turned out ranks of white helmets and blue uniforms, playing and marching in perfect time behind the magnificent drummers and the Drum Major - each of the bands which make up the Service has to perform as an orchestra and a dance band as well as a military band. The Branch has its own distinct identity. It has a different uniform - buglers wear a thin red stripe down their trousers as opposed to the broad stripe worn by musicians. Their repertoire covers every category of music. They can provide anything from full orchestra down to jazz, pop and folk groups and always to the highest standard.
Founded in 1903 the original Royal Marines Band Service, together with its headquarters, the Royal Naval School of Music was to provide Bands for the Royal Navy. The Royal Marines then transformed the school and from then on the Band Service became an integral part of the Corp. The original home was Eastney Barracks Portsmouth, where it remained until 1930 when it was moved to the Royal Marines Depot, Deal. _______________________________________________________________
First Name:
Howard Charles
Initials:
H
Surname:
Waldron
Nationality:
British
Information:
Discharged with Bonus on Reduction.
Rank:
Musician
Service Number:
RMB/1735
Campaign Medals:
1914/15 Star
Howard Charles Waldron was awarded the 1914-15 star campaign medal of the British Empire for his service in World War One.
This Star is identical to the 1914 Star in every respect except that the centre scroll bears the dates “1914- 15” and the two small scrolls bearing “Aug” and “Nov” are omitted.
As Howard Charles Waldron was a recipient of this medal he also received the British War Medal and Victory Medal, as it was not awarded singularly. These three medals were sometimes irreverently referred to as Pip, Squeak and Wilfred. With Pip representing either this medal or the 1914 Star, only one of which could be awarded to a soldier, Squeak represented the British War Medal and Wilfred represented the Victory Medal. Victory Medal
Like many service personnel of World War One, Howard Charles Waldron was entitled to the Victory medal, also called the Inter Allied Victory Medal. This medal was awarded to all who received the 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star and, with certain exceptions, to those who received the British War Medal. It was never awarded alone. These three medals were sometimes irreverently referred to as Pip, Squeak and Wilfred.
Eligibility for this award consisted of having been mobilised, fighting, having served in any of the theatres of operations, or at sea, between midnight 4th/5th August, 1914, and midnight, 11th/12th November, 1918. Women who served in any of the various military organisations in a theatre of operations were also eligible. British War Medal
As with many Armed Forces personnel, Howard Charles Waldron was entitled to the British War Medal for service in World War One. This British Empire campaign medal was issued for services between 5th August 1914 and 11th November 1918.
The medal was automatically awarded in the event of death on active service before the completion of this period.
Service:
Royal Marines
Branch:
royal marine band
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Margaret
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24 May 2013 07:54 |
Thank you so much for this information, I looked at the Nat Archives site and also noted that it can be viewed for free if you go to the office so i might try my luck here on Genes to see if anyone is going to be visiting in the near future. Regards Margaret :-)
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Margaret
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26 May 2013 22:44 |
I have downloaded this record from National Archives and was able to confirm wife is Catherine but no further info to enable me to find any family they may have had. Thanks for your help.
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27 May 2013 06:03 |
is this your man?
Name:Howard C Waldron Spouse Catherine Miller Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Registration District:Medway Inferred County:Kent Volume Number:2a Page Number:1844
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27 May 2013 06:05 |
?his death
Name: Howard Charles Waldron Birth Date:25 Dec 1892 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973 Age at Death:80 Registration District:Ealing Inferred County:Greater London Volume:5b Page:86
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27 May 2013 06:09 |
If that is the couple you have mothers maiden name so you could try looking for births on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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27 May 2013 06:19 |
1911
Name: Howard Charles Waldron Age in 1911: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Gender: Female Birth Place: Derby, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Royal Marine Artillery Barracks And Infirmary, Eastney, Portsmouth Marital Status: Single Occupation: Musician Rm B Registration District: Portsmouth Registration District Number: 90 Sub-registration District: Kingston and East Southsea
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27 May 2013 06:23 |
Elec. roll living 60 Loftus Road ***looks like they were still there upto at least 1965(this is the last year online on Ancestry) Name: Howard Charles Waldron /Catherine Year: 1930 County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
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ErikaH
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27 May 2013 10:21 |
Use the following site for BMD info
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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Margaret
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27 May 2013 11:19 |
Thank you both for your help, seems no children to be found at this stage. Have not been able to find out who his parents are. He was living with grandparents in 1901 census. Any suggestions re burial if this is his death in 1973?
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27 May 2013 11:35 |
Hello Margaret - have you ordered his marriage certificate to see what details it gives about his father (if known)?
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27 May 2013 11:36 |
Just posting that 1901 for reference:
WALDRON, Patrick Head Married M 60 1841 Commercial Traveller Loughglynn Ireland WALDRON, Eliza Wife Married F 56 1845 Teddington, Middlesex WALDRON, Martha L Daughter Single F 26 1875 Derby, Derbyshire WALDRON, Edward M Son Single M 17 1884 Bottler In Medical Trade Derby, Derbyshire WALDRON, Francis Son Single M 15 1886 Assistant In Boot Trade Derby, Derbyshire WALDRON, Agnes Daughter Single F 13 1888 Derby, Derbyshire WALDRON, Howard Grand Son Single M 8 1893 Derby, Derbyshire
Piece: 3187 Folio: 11 Page: 14 Registration District: Nottingham Civil Parish: Nottingham
Address: 55, Hall Street, Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire
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27 May 2013 11:39 |
His birth certificate will name at least one parent:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Howard Charles Waldron Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1893 Registration District: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 54
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27 May 2013 12:59 |
http://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/200368/births_deaths_and_marriages/738/cemeteries gives details of Cemeteries in the Borough of Ealing.
Try the 'contact us' button on the page to ask where records are held, and the cost if the Borough make a look-up charge.
Assuming the 1973 death is his, he might have been cremated.
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27 May 2013 18:44 |
I had posted free bmd site Reggie. Doesn't help much with who the parents are but looking in 1891 census here are 2 more boys for Patrick and Eliza who are not with them in 1901 . In 1911 Thomas Arthur is single and in the Navy. James Patrick is married and says he has 3 living children who are all there on the census. 1911 Patrick and Eliza say they had 17 children 9 still living 8 have died.So i think you need the birth cert if you want to find out who his parents are
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Margaret
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30 May 2013 22:42 |
Derby Mercury-Wednesday 10 November 1897
Waldron— On October 23, Henry Charles Waldron, 33. Colvllle Street, aged 28 years
Derby Mercury- Wednesday 10 November 1897
Tho committee have granted to the widow of the late Police-constable Henry Waldron, who served in the force for six years, a gratuity of £36 8s. (being one month's pay for eaoh completed year of service) under the Police Act,
Derby Daily Telegraph-Thursday 14 January 1937DUFFIELD
FUNERAL The funeral of Mr. James Patrick Waldron (63), of Eaton Bank, Outfield, took place at Little Eaton Church yesterday. The Rev. A. Baldwin officiated. Mr. Waldron had been missing from home since November 27 last year, and his body was recovered from the River Derwent at Allestree on Saturday. Mourners were: The widow, Mr. VV. Waldron (son). Mr. and Mrs. Lambley (son-in-law and daughter), Mr. Frank Waldron, of Beckenham, Kent (brother) and Mrs. Pierce, of Hereford (sister).
Two questions here please, 1st do you know if i could find out anything from the Derbyshire Police re Henrys death?
And 2nd Could anyone find me a marriage for the Mrs Pierce in the above notice, maiden name WALDRON.
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jansmith
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30 May 2013 23:00 |
you could try looking for a marriage on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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Margaret
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31 May 2013 01:57 |
Not able to see one when i checked, thanks for your interest though.
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