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9 May 2013 19:33 |
Can anyone help - I am looking for any details regarding a Matha Ella Ling born in Surrey in 1910 - Any help would be really appreciated.
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9 May 2013 19:36 |
1911 census with family
1911 England Census about Martha Ella Ling Name: Martha Ella Ling Age in 1911: 4m Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Brookwood, Surrey, England Civil parish: Woking County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: 2 Hazel Cottages, Brookwood, Surrey Registration district: Guildford Registration District Number: 33 Sub-registration district: Woking ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 122 Piece: 3041 Household Members: Name Age Edward Ling 40 Ada Ling 40 Basil Edward Ling 7 Eva Dora Ada Ling 6 Percy Ernest Ling 4 Frank Alfred Ling 2 Martha Ella Ling 4m William Arthur Lugg Andy
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9 May 2013 19:40 |
1911 Census Household Record Household information Address 2 Hazel Cottage Brookwood Parish Woking Town Brookwood Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms Five Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN3041 RG78PN107 RD33 SD1 ED14 SN122 Administrative County Surrey Registration District Guildford Registration Sub District Woking Enumeration District 14 Householder 1 Name Edward Ling Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married Married Gender M Age 40 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Occupation Carman To Coal Merchant Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Marylebone London Nationality Britsh Householder 2 Name Ada Ling Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 8 Years Total Children Born Alive 5 Children Still Living 5 Children Who Have Died 0 Gender F Age 40 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Raydon Suffolk Nationality British Householder 3 Name Basil Edward Ling Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1904 Occupation School Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Wokingham Berkshire Householder 4 Name Eva Dora Ada Ling Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1905 Occupation School Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Knaphill Woking Surrey Householder 5 Name Percy Ernest Ling Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 4 Estimated Year of Birth 1907 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth West End Chobham Surrey Householder 6 Name Frank Alfred Ling Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1909 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Brookwood Woking Surrey Householder 7 Name Martha Ella Ling Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 4 Months Estimated Year of Birth 1911 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Brookwood Woking Surrey Householder 8 Name William Arthur Lugg Relationship to Head of Household Lodger Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 29 Estimated Year of Birth 1882 Occupation Cab Driver To Job Master Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Ilfracombe Devonshire Nationality British
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9 May 2013 19:44 |
FMP version...
Household transcription 1911 census Person: LING, Martha Ella Address: 2 Hazel Cottage Brookwood LING, Edward Head Married M 40 1871 Carman To Coal Merchant Marylebone London VIEW LING, Ada Wife Married8 years F 40 1871 Raydon Suffolk VIEW LING, Basil Edward Son M 7 1904 School Wokingham Berkshire VIEW LING, Eva Dora Ada Daughter F 6 1905 School Knaphill Woking Surrey VIEW LING, Percy Ernest Son M 4 1907 West End Chobham Surrey VIEW LING, Frank Alfred Son M 2 1909 Brookwood Woking Surrey VIEW LING, Martha Ella Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Brookwood Woking Surrey VIEW LUGG, William Arthur Lodger Single M 29 1882 Cab Driver To Job Master Ilfracombe Devonshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 3041 Reference: RG14PN3041 RG78PN107 RD33 SD1 ED14 SN122 Registration District: Guildford Sub District: Woking Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Woking Address: 2 Hazel Cottage Brookwood County: Surrey (5 children born and living)
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9 May 2013 19:44 |
Hi Jo101
Where are you trying to go with this - forward to her descendants or backwards into her ancestry?
What research have you already done on her?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 May 2013 19:46 |
her birth Births Dec 1910 LING Martha E Guildford 2a 77
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Andrew
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9 May 2013 19:48 |
Parents marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ling Edward W. Ham 4a 99 Welham Ada W. Ham 4a 99
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9 May 2013 19:48 |
her brother Name: Basil E Ling Spouse Surname: Street Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1931 Registration district: Farnham Inferred County: Surrey Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 234 Find Spouse: Kathleen V M Street
so family was still in Surrey
Name: Basil E Ling Birth Date: abt 1904 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1968 Age at Death: 64 Registration district: Surrey South Western Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 441
not seeing a birth for a Kathleen V M Street
Wonder if this is her
Name: Kathleen V Ling Birth Date: abt 1910 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948 Age at Death: 38 Registration district: Surrey South Western Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 893
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 May 2013 19:52 |
looking for a marriage for Martha but not seeing one .as yet .
so looking at siblings
Name: Eva Dora A Ling Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1904 Registration district: Guildford Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 71
died young unfortunately
Name: Eva D A Ling Birth Date: abt 1904 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931 Age at Death: 27 Registration district: Guildford Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 180
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Andrew
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9 May 2013 19:59 |
Looking at this death.....
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Ella Martha Roberts Name: Ella Martha Roberts Birth Date: 3 Nov 1910 Date of Registration: Dec 1987 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Surrey North-western Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 17 Page: 829
Marriage, but out of area??
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
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Ling Ella M Roberts Holywell 11b 397 Roberts Kenneth S Ling Holywell 11b 397
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PricklyHolly
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9 May 2013 20:00 |
1881 England Census about Ada Welham Name: Ada Welham Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frederick Welham Mother's Name: Harriet Welham Gender: Female Where born: Raydon, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Raydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address: Chaple House-Upper Street Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Samford Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1864 Folio: 78 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Welham 44 (Bricklayer) Harriet Welham 42 Kate Welham 15 Alfred Welham 13 Harry Welham 12 Ada Welham 10 Thirsa Welham 8 Martha Welham 5 Eva Welham 2
1871 England Census about Ada Welham Name: Ada Welham Age: 4 Months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frederick Welham Mother's Name: Harriet Welham Gender: Female Where born: Raydon, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Raydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Samford Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 40 Piece: 1746 Folio: 85 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Welham 35 (Bricklayers Journeyman) Harriet Welham 32 Kate Welham 5 Alfred Welham 3 Harry Welham 2 Ada Welham 4 Months
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ada Welham Name: Ada Welham Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1870 Registration district: Samford Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 551
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PricklyHolly
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9 May 2013 20:06 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: WELHAM, Harriet Address: Upper Street Layham Hadleigh Suffolk
WELHAM, Fredrck Head Married M 75 1836 Bricklayer Lomesham Suff VIEW WELHAM, Harriet Wife Marred45 years F 72 1839 Raydon Suffolk VIEW WELHAM, Alfred Son Single M 43 1868 Carpenter Layham Suffolk VIEW WELHAM, Harry Son Single M 42 1869 Farm Labourer Raydon Suffolk VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 10594 Reference: RG14PN10594 RG78PN568 RD206 SD2 ED12 SN31 Registration District: Cosford Sub District: Hadleigh Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Layham Address: Upper Street Layham Hadleigh Suffolk County: Suffolk (8 children born, 7 living, 1 had died)
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PricklyHolly
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9 May 2013 20:19 |
Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%) HOPES Harriet Samford 4a 725 WELHAM Frederick Samford 4a 725
1861 England Census about Frederick Welham Name: Frederick Welham Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Somersham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Raydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Samford Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Piece: 1159 Folio: 94 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age John Welham 33 Eliza Welham 33 John Welham 12 Eliza Welham 9 Ellen Welham 9 Georgina Welham 4 Kate Welham 1 Frederick Welham 24 (Bricklayers Journeyman) Sarah Ann Cutcher 17
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PricklyHolly
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9 May 2013 20:44 |
1851 England Census about Frederic Willham Name: Frederic Willham Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Willham Mother's Name: Martha Willham Gender: M (Male) Where born: Somersham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Somersham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 67 Piece: 1797 Folio: 557 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Robert Willham 55 (Bricklayer) Martha Willham 49 George Willham 17 Frederic Willham 15 (Bricklayer) Isaac Willham 14 Hannah Willham 12 Elizth Willham 9 Eliza Willham 6 Mary Anne Willham
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Frederic Welham Name: Frederic Welham Gender: Male Christening Date: 31 May 1835 Christening Place: Somersham, Suffolk, England Father's Name: Robert Welham Mother's Name: Martha
1841 England Census about Robert William Name: Robert William [Robert Welham] [Robert Wellham] [Robert Wellham] Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Nettlestead, Suffolk, England [Suffolk, England] Civil parish: Somersham Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Bramford Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1019 Book: 8 Folio: 8 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Robert William 45 Martha William 35 James William 15 Martha William 15 Sarah William 14 John William 12 Frederic William 6 Isaac William 4 Hannah William 2 Elizabeth William 5 Mo George William 8
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PricklyHolly
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9 May 2013 21:00 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Robert Welham Name: Robert Welham Probate Date: 1 Jun 1872 Death Date: 19 Jul 1871 Death Place: Suffolk, England Registry: Ipswich 1 June. The Will with a Codicil of of Robert Welham late of Somersham in the County of Suffolk Bricklayer who died 19th July 1872 at Somersham was proved at Ipswich by John Welham of Raydon in the said County Bricklayer and Builder and James Welham of Hintlsham in the said County Bricklayer the Sons the Executors.
Effects: Under £20
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Jo101
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9 May 2013 21:15 |
Thank you all so much for such swift responses. Pretty new to all this. I have found a lot from the census records but am really trying to find out more about Martha and if she has any living relatives. Thank you again for help so far. Any more news on Martha would be fantastic. ;-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 May 2013 22:44 |
I too thought the Roberts/ Ling marriage could be her. The only way to confirm this would be to get some certs.
Have a look on FreeBMD because there are possible Roberts mmn Ling births from 1940 onwards in Surrey.
Afraid no one can confirm if thisis Martha s family you would have to decide if its worth getting some certs for the info
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ErikaH
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9 May 2013 23:01 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1324547
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ErikaH
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9 May 2013 23:05 |
Try looking for info on freebmd
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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ErikaH
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10 May 2013 09:37 |
Death Name: LING, Percy E Registration district: Surrey South Western County: Surrey Year of registration: 1966 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death:59 Volume no: 5G Page no: 368
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