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Hi there, I am looking for my great grandfather, Percy Stone.
I know from family history that he was born in Wandsworth, London in 1888.
His marriage certificate, and 1911 census records also show that by then, he was living in Weymouth, with my great grandmother. They married in 1912.

His father was called James Stone.

Heres my problem. I can't find any birth records for a Percy Stone in 1888. He didn't move, the other Percy Stones born in other areas are not him! I've even checked military births........nothing!!

Any advice please?

Julie

No other initial showing on marriage record
Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: Percy Stone married Lilian B Clothier
Name: STONE, Percy
Registration district: Weymouth
County: Dorset
Year of registration: 1912
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Clothier
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 732

For Ref 1911 census

Name: Percy Stone
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Civil parish: Portland
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: 90 Fortunes Well, Portland, Dorset
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Soldier Bandsman
Registration district: Weymouth
Registration District Number: 263
Sub-registration district: Portland
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 133
Piece: 12366
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredrick Clothier 45
Emma Clothier 49
Lilian Blanche Clothier 16
Charlotte Maria Groves 76
Percy Stone 23

What is the occupation of his father from the marriage cert ?

Witnessess ?

Have you found a London baptism for him ?

I know he doesn't give a middle initial on his marriage registration ......but I wonder?

Births Jun 1887
Stone Percy James Lambeth 1d 4_8

Often on census year of birth is round up

Interesting middle name on that registration

Bother I think that one is also on 1911

Unless he was registered as Leonard Percy Stone in 1886

Really need feedback from the marriage cert

Re Londonbelle

Percy James Stone
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1887
Father's Name: Joseph Stone carpenter
Mother's Name: Frances Stone
Parish or Poor Law Union: East Brixton St Jude
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers




Regards Vera

Only Percy with father JAmes on the 1901. Hopeless with London areas, could Whitechapel and Wandsworth be anywhere near

1901 census transcription details for: 42, Abbey Lane, West Ham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1562
Folio: 30
Page: 6
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: Stratford
Parish: West Ham
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints West Ham
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 42, Abbey Lane, West Ham
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STONE, James Head Married M 36 1865 Chandler Shop Whitechapel, London
STONE, Rose Wife Married F 23 1878 Germany (British Subject)
STONE, Percy J Son Single M 15 1886 Van Boy Whitechapel, London
STONE, Walter Son Single M 11 1890 West Ham, Essex

???? year of birth

1891
Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
STONE, James E Head Married M 35 1856 Book Binder
St Lukes, London VIEW
STONE, Phillis Wife Married F 31 1860
London VIEW
STONE, Charles Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Islington, London VIEW
STONE, Henry T Son M 7 1884 Scholar
St Lukes, London VIEW
STONE, Alfred W Son M 6 1885 Scholar
St Lukes, London VIEW
>>>>>>>STONE, Percy J Son M 1 1890
Hackney, London VIEW
Piece: 200
Folio: 55
Page: 32
Registration District: Hackney
Civil Parish: Hackney
Municipal Borough:
Address: 36, Mandeville Street, Hackney
County: London



Regards Vera

Back to the drawing board!

Perhaps he was older than that given in 1911 census? It stated that he was 7yrs older than his bride to be perhaps he was older than that!

Do you know when and where Percy died?

Percy with father James in 1891
1891 census transcription details for: 42, Abbey Lane, West Ham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1330
Folio: 108
Page: 7
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: West Ham
Parish: West Ham
Enum. District: 60
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough: West Ham
Address: 42, Abbey Lane, West Ham
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STONE, James Head Married M 26 1865 Grocer Whitechapel, London
STONE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1865 Whitechapel, London
STONE, Percy Son M 5 1886 Whitechapel, London
STONE, Walter Son M 1 1890 Stratford, Essex
SHARP, Jane Servant Single F 15 1876 General Servant Stepney, London

Not finding any Army Records for him. Was he still in the Army when he married as the 1911 shows him in the Army as a Bandsman?

BMD's show children born to Stone/Clothier, but rather spread out
1914 - Weymouth Isabel S
1918 - Weymouth Margaret V
1922 - Tavistock, Devon Audrey M
but plenty of other forces births without mmn showing.

When and where did he die ?

? if the right death then who registered it

Name: Lilian B Stone
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1931
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 416

Thanks peeps!!

I can't find any census results until 1911 for him4

Right, his full name was Percy Edwin Stone
I do not know when he died, or where.
He married Lilan B. Clothier in Weymouth, in 1912.
He had two children (there MAY be others) Margaret V Stone, 1918, and Isoella S Stone in 1914.
The marriage certificate says they were married on 3rd August,1912 in Weymouth
His father was called James Stone, deceased at the time.
The witnessess were R. Clothier, and E. Clothier (brides mother and ???)

Yes, that is Lilians death in 1931

This help is very much appriciated.

So where has the middle name come from ?

So would this be his birth


Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Stone Percy Edwin Mutford 4a 904

Been looking at that one but i reckon his parents were Arthur and Caroline

He is on 1911 as plain Percy with wife Clara