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Peter
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6 Apr 2013 23:58 |
Hi there,
I have two William Cockerill being buried in Fylingdales, North Yorkshire in 1855 (aged 75) and 1859 (aged 70).
I am trying to work out which one probably relates to me ... can you help by finding them in the census? I have no idea where they where born and hope to find out through here.
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Peter
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7 Apr 2013 00:03 |
? 1851 England Census William Cooprell [William Cockrill (later Cockerill)] Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Cooprell Gender: M (Male) Where born: Fylingdales, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Fylingdales County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Thorpe Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Egton ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Household schedule number: 98 Piece: 2374 Folio: 168 Page Number: 20 William Cooprell 61 Sarah Cooprell 60 Frances Cooprell 31 Ag Lab John Cooprell 20 Cordwainer Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2374; Folio: 168; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87660-87662.
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7 Apr 2013 00:06 |
1841 England Census William Cockerill Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Fylingdales Hundred: Whitby Strand County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Whitby Piece: 1265 Book: 1 Folio: 52 Page Number: 1 William Cockerill 51 farmer, living at Thorpe brow Sarah Cockerill 49 Jane Cockerill 23 William Cockerill 20 Elizabeth Cockerill 19 Richard Cockerill 18 John Cockerill 10 Sarah Cockerill 1 Week Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1265; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Fylingdales; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 31; Folio: 52; Page: 1; Line: 17; GSU roll: 464236.
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Peter
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7 Apr 2013 00:10 |
Thank you Patchem ... very kind. Is the 'other' William in the same village also?
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7 Apr 2013 00:10 |
1841 England Census William Cockerill Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Fylingdales Hundred: Whitby Strand County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: haggett Hill ?? Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Whitby Piece: 1265 Book: 1 Folio: 55 Page Number: 6 Thomas Jackson 36 Jane Jackson 29 John Baker 40 Francis Nelton 22 Betty Jackson 15 Elizabeth Stubbs 34 Mary Stubbs 1 William Cockerill 65 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1265; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Fylingdales; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 31; Folio: 55; Page: 6; Line: 1; GSU roll: 464236.
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patchem
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7 Apr 2013 00:16 |
1851 England Census William Cockrill Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780 Relation: Head Gender: M (Male) Where born: Fylingdales, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Stainton Dale Country: England Occupation: alum work labourer Condition as to marriage: widower Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Filey ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 2368 Folio: 613 Page Number: 15 William Cockrill 71 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2368; Folio: 613; Page: 15; GSU roll: 87646-87649.
In the same household are Mary Budele granddau mar 26 mariner's wife Fylingdales Elizabeth Ann Budele 2 Stainton Dale Philip N 9 months Stainton dale
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7 Apr 2013 00:16 |
Thank you Patchem - in 1841 does it seems like William Cockerill is with relatives? What is his occupation?
Thanks
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7 Apr 2013 00:19 |
I am inclined to think the one born 1780 is my ancestor - thank you Patchem.
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7 Apr 2013 00:20 |
Also - can we find a marriage for Mary born c. 1825 in Fylingdales?! This would help extend the family and help confirm a connection.
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Peter
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patchem
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7 Apr 2013 00:22 |
Just for spelling; Births Sep 1850 Beadle Philip Newton Scarbro 24 568
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Peter
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7 Apr 2013 00:22 |
Thank you!
I was a little lost there for a minute!
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7 Apr 2013 00:26 |
Name: Philip Newton Bedell Gender: Male Christening Date: 04 Aug 1850 Christening Place: FYLINGDALES,YORK,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Philip Bedell Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10535-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 919060 Reference ID: Citing this Record
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7 Apr 2013 00:28 |
1861 England Census Mary Beadle Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Ston Brow, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Fylingdales Town: Robin Hoods Bay County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: High Street Occupation: seaman's wife Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Whitby ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 42 Piece: 3649 Folio: 94 Page Number: 7 Mary Beadle 34 Phillips Beadle 11 son Mary L Beadle 8 dau William C Beadle 5 son William Beadle 5 neph Mariah Mitchel 40 Phillip Elliott 50 Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3649; Folio: 94; Page: 7; GSU roll: 543166.
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7 Apr 2013 00:29 |
Patchem - I am having difficulty finding a marriage for Mary to asertain her maiden name.
Can you help?
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7 Apr 2013 00:36 |
Thank you for the 1861.
I don't really want to work forward just yet as it is possible I don't connect to this familu just yet.
My ancestor Ann Wood (nee Cockerill) died in East Barnby, North Yorkshire in 1849 aged 37 - so born c. 1813. She was living in Danby in the late 1830s and then moved to Hinderwell where her husband was the local inkeeper.
I have looked for a baptism and found one in 1813 in Fylingdales, North Yorkshire to a William Cockerill and Ann.
There is a sister Margaret baptised in 1815.
So trying to link Mary Bedale to Margaret or another sibling?
Cheers,
Peter
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7 Apr 2013 00:38 |
Marriages Mar 1846 Barker Elizabeth Thirsk 24 569 xxxxBeedall Philip Whitby 24 569 BOWMAN Mary Thirsk 24 569 xxxxCOCKERIL Mary Whitby 24 569 xxxxCOCKRIL Mary Whitby 24 569 Dibb John Whitby 24 569 Easby John Faint Thirsk 24 569 Ebblewhite George Whitby 24 569 Fearsby Joseph Thirsk 24 569 Leng Ann Whitby 24 569 Pearson Eliza Whitby 24 569 Robinson Elizabeth Thursk 24 569 Robinson Elizabeth Thirsk 24 569 Sleightholm William Whitby 24 569 Smiddy Betsey Whitby 24 569 Smith Robert Thirsk 24 569
The spelling does vary a lot.
Birth certificates will give Mother's maiden name.
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Peter
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7 Apr 2013 00:48 |
Thank you - can't see a baptism just yet ...
Thank you though!
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Vicci
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7 Apr 2013 05:45 |
1841 note address : Stoupe Brow, Fylingdales - if you look at the birth place of Mary Beadle in the 1861 census "Where born: Ston Brow, Yorkshire, England", looks like it the same place.
COCKERILL, William M 51 1790 Yorkshire COCKERILL, Sarah F 49 1792 Yorkshire COCKERILL, Jane F 23 1818 Yorkshire COCKERILL, William M 20 1821 Yorkshire COCKERILL, Elizabeth F 19 1822 Yorkshire COCKERILL, Richard M 18 1823 Yorkshire COCKERILL, John M 10 1831 Yorkshire COCKERILL, Sarah F 0 (1 weeks) 1841 Yorkshire
Piece: 1265
Book/Folio: 1/52
Page: 1
Registration District: Whitby
Civil Parish: Fylingdales
Municipal Borough:
Address: Stoupe Brow, Fylingdales
County: Yorkshire
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7 Apr 2013 06:00 |
"STOW BROW, a hamlet in the township and parish of Fylingdales, North Riding county York, 5 miles S.E. of Whitby."
"STOUPE, (or Stowborough), a hamlet in the parish of Fylingdales, liberty of Whitby Strand, North Riding county York, 9 miles N.W. of Scarborough, and 4 S.E. of Whitby. It is situated near the coast, on a cliff 893 feet in height. There are extensive alum works in the vicinity."
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7 Apr 2013 06:16 |
1851 the william and elizabeth from the 1841 census
COCKRILL, William Head Married M 30 1821 Labourer At Alum Work Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW COCKRILL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 29 1822 Labourers Wife Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW COCKRILL, Sarah Ann Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW COCKRILL, William Son M 7 1844 Scholar Staintondale, Yorkshire VIEW COCKRILL, Mary Jane Daur F 5 1846 Scholar Staintondale, Yorkshire VIEW COCKRILL, Ingram Son M 3 1848 At Home Staintondale, Yorkshire VIEW COCKRILL, Hannah Briget Daur F Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW
Piece: 2374
Folio: 205
Page: 16
Registration District: Whitby
Civil Parish: Fylingdales
Municipal Borough:
Address: Stow Brow, Fylingdales
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
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