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Gemma ; )
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25 Mar 2013 22:18 |
Hi, I really hope someone can give me some tips please. My husband is related to Amy Johnson and I am trying to close the links in the family tree (which I haven't started on line yet).
Amy is his Great, great, great cousin (Cousin of his great grandmother). I have tried starting from Amy Johnson by finding her parents and working back. I have also tried from the great grandmother but the trouble is the surname is so common there are so many I don't want to go down the wrong route. ANY IDEAS PLEASE.
Amy Johnson b.01/07/1903 Hull Mother: Amy Johnson b.1881 Hull Father: John William Johnson b.1877 Hull
My husbands great grandmorher: Minnie Ellen Johnson b 1893? Married Stanley Samuel Sudbury Ginn b.1894 poplar
thanks for your help
Gemma
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Gemma ; )
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25 Mar 2013 22:28 |
Hi no I haven't got the marriage cert. Is that the best place to start to get her parents names? I will see if it is in the family somewhere, if not I can order it, thanks
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GlitterBaby
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25 Mar 2013 22:29 |
Name: Minnie Ellen Johnson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Age: 23 Spouse Name: Stanley Samuel Sudsbury Ginn Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 18 Aug 1917 Parish: Poplar St Andrew Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Johnson - iron moulder Spouse Father Name: James Ginn Register Type: Parish Register
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GlitterBaby
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25 Mar 2013 22:30 |
Would you like a copy of the marriage cert ?
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Jonesey
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25 Mar 2013 22:30 |
Unfortunately many of the "Family Links" to well known, famous or infamous people often turn out to be nothing more than wishful thinking or family stories.
If there really is a link then the correct way to trace it will be via your husband's ancestry about which hopefully more is initially known.
??? Name: Minnie Ellen Johnson Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1893 Registration district: Hartlepool Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 137
If the above is indeed your husband's great grandmother then you need to trace her ancestry on her father's side back until you discover which of his ancestors are related to John William Johnson (Amy Johnson's father).
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Gemma ; )
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25 Mar 2013 22:33 |
That would be fantastic if you can. Many thanks
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GlitterBaby
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25 Mar 2013 22:36 |
Gemma
Just sent as an attachment thru GR message.
Should open okay.
GB
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Gemma ; )
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25 Mar 2013 22:40 |
A big big thankyou Glitterbaby. It opens fine and I can read it. I will sit down tomorrow night with a print out and a cuppa and get stuck in.
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25 Mar 2013 22:40 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>John William Johnson father of Amy was Danish and born in Denmark....<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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GlitterBaby
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25 Mar 2013 22:41 |
1911 possible
Name: William Johnson Age in 1911: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Bishop Auckland Civil parish: Poplar County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 3 Reeves Road, Bromley By Bow E Marital Status: Married Occupation: IRONMOLDER Registration district: Poplar Registration District Number: 22 Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 1681 Household Members: Name Age William Johnson 50 Annie Johnson 47 Annie Johnson 27 Minnie Ellen Johnson 18 Elizabeth Johnson 12
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Gemma ; )
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25 Mar 2013 22:41 |
I will let you all know if I do find a link to her :-)
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jansmith
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25 Mar 2013 22:48 |
from searching the name http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/content/articles/2005/10/18/amy_johnson_feature.shtml 1 - Early years Amy Johnson was born on July 1st 1903. in the family home on St Georges Road in Hull.
Her father John owned a fish processing factory. Her mother was also called Amy and she had two sisters Irene and Molly.
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25 Mar 2013 22:55 |
1911 National Archive Reference:
RG14PN28616 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED6 SN81 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Sculcoates Enum. District: 6 Address: 48 Alliance Avenue Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding) JOHNSON, John William Head Married M 34 1877 Fish Salesman Hull Yorkshire JOHNSON, Amy Wife Married 8 years F 30 1881 Hull Yorkshire JOHNSON, Amy Daughter F 7 1904 School Hull Yorkshire JOHNSON, Irene Daughter F 6 1905 School Hull Yorkshire
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jansmith
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25 Mar 2013 23:14 |
1891 JOHNSON, Andrew Head Married M 38 1853 Smack Owner Denmark British Subject JOHNSON, Mary A Wife Married F 33 1858 Devonshire JOHNSON, Hannah M Daughter Single F 16 1875 Drapers Assistant Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, John W Son M 14 1877 **************** Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Florence C Daughter F 12 1879 Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Thomas H Son M 11 1880 Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Alice M Daughter F 6 1885 Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Evalina Daughter F 3 1888 Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Herbert A Son M 2 1889 Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Arthur S Son M 0 (11M) 1891 Hull, Yorkshire TURNER, Clara E Servant Single F 16 1875 Domestic Servant Barrow, Lincolnshire
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jansmith
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25 Mar 2013 23:18 |
Amy Johnson was born at 154 St. George’s Road, Hull on 1st July 1903, the daughter of John William Johnson, a member of the old-established family firm of Andrew Johnson, Knudtzon and Company, fish merchants, and Amy Hodge, granddaughter of William Hodge, Mayor of Hull in 1860.
Amy’s grandfather (father’s side), Anders Jorgensen, had migrated to this country from the Danish island of Fyn.
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25 Mar 2013 23:27 |
? Minnies father in 1861
Address: 14, High Tenters Street, St Andrews Auckland, Bishop Auckland
County: Durham JOHNSON, William Head Married M 37 1824 Tailor Hull, Yorkshire JOHNSON, Francis Wife Married F 32 1829 Gateshead, Durham JOHNSON, Mary A Daughter F 6 1855 Leeds, Yorkshire JOHNSON, William Son M 0 (5M) 1861 ****** Bishop Auckland, Durham
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26 Mar 2013 08:54 |
1901: Name: Will Johnson Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Johnson Gender: Male Where born: B Auckend, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Bromley Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard Bromley Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 155 Piece: 350 Folio: 93 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Will Johnson 46 Annie Johnson 37 Annie Johnson 19 William Johnson 13 >>>Nellie Johnson 8 (Minnie Ellen) Elizabeth Johnson 2
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26 Mar 2013 09:10 |
Amy Johnson's paternal grandfather:
Name: Anders Jorgensen Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 dec 1852 Cristening Date: 13 mar 1853 Christening Age: 0 Christening Place: BOVENSE, SVENDBORG, DENMARK Father: Jorgen Jorgensen Mother: Anna Kirstine Larsen
Name: Andrew Johnson Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1874 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 313 Spouse: Mary Ann Holmes
1881: Name: Andrew Johnson Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A. Johnson Gender: Male Where born: Orshjerg, Denbighshire, Wales [Orshjerg, Denmark] Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 36 Gt Thornton St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Fisherman Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 53 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4775 Folio: 59 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Johnson 28 Mary A. Johnson 23 Hannah M.D. Johnson 6 John W. Johnson 4 Florence C. Johnson 2 Thomas H. Johnson 1 Sarah Haydon 21
Name: Andrew Johnson Birth Date: abt 1853 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1934 Age at Death: 81 Registration district: Bridlington Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 455
Name: Andrew Johnson Probate Date: 28 May 1934 Death Date: 9 Mar 1934 Death Place: Yorkshire, England Registry: London, England
Gemma,
Sorry but it looks very unlikely that there is any genetic connection between Amy Johnson's paternal ancestors and those of your husbands ancestors.
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26 Mar 2013 22:28 |
Name: Minnie E Ginn Birth Date:abt 1893 Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1964 Age at Death: 71 Registration district:Brighton Inferred County:Sussex Volume:5h Page:71
Name: Minnie Ellen Ginn Probate Date: 31 Dec 1964 Death Date: 13 Nov 1964 Death Place: Brighton, England Registry: Lewes
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Daniel
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15 Dec 2013 13:14 |
I'm also looking for Amy johnsons family tree,I have found as far back as jorgen jorgensen but before that has become a problem,anyone got on info on this please? :-)
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