Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Mark
|
Report
|
19 Mar 2013 12:30 |
Apart from births i have not yet been able to follow up the lives of the following children of Robert Johnson 1885 - Cab driver and his wife Jane Buck 1884. Their children
Annie 1904, Teresa 1906, Jane 1908, Robert 1909 or Ernest 1911. I have searched for possible marriages and deaths.
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 15:28 |
Thank you Catherine
|
|
Catherine
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:42 |
?
1901 England Census about Jane Buck Name: Jane Buck Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Birkdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Birkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: General Domestic
Condition as to marriage: Single
Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 222 Piece: 3534 Folio: 45 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Aughton 25 Ada Aughton 26 Edith Aughton 3 Ann Aughton 2 Weeks Robert Johnson 19 Jane Buck 18 ......................................................
Looks as though she probably married Robert Johnson from 1891 census:-
Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%) Buck Jane Ormskirk 8b 1387 Fearn Charles Ormskirk 8b 1387 Johnson Robert Ormskirk 8b 1387 Rimmer Hannah Ormskirk 8b 1387
............................................
1911:- JOHNSON, Elizabeth Head Widow F 53 1858 Ormskirk Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Single F 22 1889 Servent Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Edward Son Single M 13 1898 Errand Boy Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, John Son Single M 13 1898 School Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Robert Boarder Married M 27 1884 Cab Driver Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Jane Wife Boarder Married 8 years F 26 1885 Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Annie Daughter Boarder F 7 1904 School Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Teresa Daughter Boarder F 5 1906 School Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Jane Daughter Boarder F 3 1908 Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Robert Son Boarder M 2 1909 Birkdale Lancs VIEW JOHNSON, Ernest Son Boarder M 0 (3 WEEK) 1911 Birkdale Lancs VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 22857 Reference: RG14PN22857 RD457 SD5 ED17 SN171 Registration District: Ormskirk Sub District: Formby Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Southport Address: 136 Upper Aughton Road Birkdale County: Lancashire
|
|
Andrew
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:20 |
The probate to Alice Ann Buck in 1960 states she is a widow so cannot be your Allice
Probate to Ellen Frances, spinster
Andy
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:18 |
Ellen France - Spinster
|
|
Catherine
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:17 |
This looks to be Jane:-
Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 about Jane Buck Name: Jane Buck Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1884 Parish: Birkdale, St James Father: William Buck Occupation:- Carter Mother: Mary Buck Reference Number: Pr 3354/1/1 Address:- Birkdale Common
.....................................................
Not on 1891 census as she seems to be visiting her Grandparents:-
1891 England Census about Jane Buck Name: Jane Buck Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Birkdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Birkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Birkdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3033 Folio: 107 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Robert Roberts 56 Jane Roberts 56 Williams Roberts 26 Jenny Roberts 19 George Roberts 15 James Rimmer 62 Jane Buck 7 Polly Buck 5 - born: Birkdale, Lancashire,
................NOTE:- There is also a Polly Buck aged 5yrs (probably Mary born 1886)!
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:16 |
As she was born Alice A Buck and died Alice A Buck a good indication she did not marry
|
|
ErikaH
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:15 |
Who was granted Probate (or Administration) on the record you say you've found?
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:15 |
My OP is quite clear as to what i have found and the research i have carried out. I was merely asking for a second opinion. And as the census indicates the couple had a rather large family and i am unable to account for all the births i was asking for help. The death i have posted in 1960 would indicate that she did not marry.
|
|
ErikaH
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:14 |
Buy the death cert....it will say if she was married -or not
Deaths Sep 1960 (>99%) BUCK Alice A 73 Horwich 10c 357
|
|
Catherine
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:14 |
Possible death for Mary Ann born 1881:-
Deaths Mar 1883 (>99%) BUCK Mary Anne 1 Ormskirk 8b 637
...........................
also relevant:- Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 about Mary Ann Buck Name: Mary Ann Buck Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1881 Parish: Southport, Christ Church Father: William Buck Occupation:- Carter Mother: Mary Buck Reference Number: Pr 2941/1/5
..............So Mary Ann could be one of the children who died?
|
|
ErikaH
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:08 |
What was your question?
And, as you have access to Ancestry, you can find ALL census info yourself.
Have you done any research as to whether she married?
You should be using Lancsbmd to look for siblings......!
|
|
Catherine
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:06 |
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887 BUCK Alice Ann Formby North Sefton ROBERTS F/19/253
Other births in same area:-
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1881 BUCK Mary Ann Great Crosby South Sefton ROBERTS C/15/431
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference BUCK Jane Formby North Sefton ROBERTS F/16/221
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference BUCK Annie Formby North Sefton ROBERTS F/17/214
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886 BUCK Mary Formby North Sefton ROBERTS F/18/225
...................so Mary Ann, Jane and Mary are all other possible siblings!
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 14:00 |
Thanks Catherine i did have the marriage from freebmd just not all the children if the census is correct on number of children born/died
|
|
Catherine
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 13:58 |
parents marriage ?:-
Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%) BRAMLEY Annie Liverpool 8b 201 xxxxx BUCK William Liverpool 8b 201 CALLIGAS Nicholas Liverpool 8b 201 xxxxx Roberts Mary Liverpool 8b 201
|
|
Catherine
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 13:54 |
1901 England Census about William Buck Name: William Buck Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Buck Gender: Male Where born: Houghton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Birkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 203 Piece: 3533 Folio: 155 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age William Buck 40 Mary Buck 38 Alice Buck 13 Elizabeth Buck 10 Ernest Buck 8 Edith Buck 6 Jessie Buck 4 Percy Buck 3 Herbert Buck 1 Month
|
|
Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 13:51 |
?? Name: Alice A Buck Birth Date: abt 1887 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1960 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: Horwich Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10c Page: 357
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 13:46 |
I only have 11 children listed
Anne Alice A Elizabeth Ernest Edith Jessie Percy Herbert John Harold Ethel
|
|
Andrew
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 13:42 |
Parents and some children 1911. No Alice
1911 England Census about William Buck Name: William Buck Age in 1911: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Aughton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Southport County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 181 Kew Rd Birkdale Southport Marital Status: Married Occupation: Gardener Registration district: Ormskirk Registration District Number: 457 Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 22858 Household Members: Name Age William Buck 51 Mary Buck 48 Ernest Buck 19 Edith Buck 16 Jessie Buck 14 Percy Buck 13 Herbert Buck 10 John Buck 8 Harold Buck 6 Ethel Buck 3
married 29 years 18 (!) children 13 living 5 died
Andy
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
18 Mar 2013 13:42 |
brummiejan
Yes that is her
|