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Please could anyone help with the birthdate of the above,.....i have tried everywhere that i can.....think was born c1817-1820 in Bermondsey? He got married c1844 to an Elizabeth, either Smith or Walker? They had 7-8 children..and he could possibly have died in 1883?
Would be gratefull if anyone could help....this is my partners 3x great grandfather!
Thank you
Mavis
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Name: Edward Dennis ..............cordwainer
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Walker
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Sep 1844
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Edward Dennis
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Walker
Register Type: Parish Register
Could you tell us the name of their child who is the ancestor and we will be able to check it is the correct family.
Gwyn
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1851 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address London Street
Parish Stepney
District Stepney, Ratcliff
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name John C Willmot
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1812
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Coal Whipper
Birth Place Tund Hill Cottage
Birth County London
Householder 2
Name Hannah M Willmot
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1809
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Coal Whipper's Wife
Birth Place Wapping
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 3
Name John G Willmot
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Rope Ground Boy
Birth Place Shadwell
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 4
Name Joseph G Willmot
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Errand Boy
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 5
Name Henry Willmot
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Attends School
Birth Place St Georges East
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 6
Name Jesse Willmot
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Attends School
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 7
Name W S Willmot
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 8
Name Louisa Russell
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Chair Woman
Birth Place Exeter
Birth County
Householder 9
Name William Russell
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation No Occupation
Birth Place St Georges Borough
Birth County Surrey
Householder 10
Name John Russell
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Attends School
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 11
Name Edward Dennis
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1817
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Coal Porter
Birth Place Bermondsey
Birth County Surrey
Householder 12
Name Elizabeth Dennis
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1820
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Tailoress
Birth Place Bermondsey
Birth County Surrey
Householder 13
Name Edward Dennis
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Dont Attend School
Birth Place Bermondsey
Birth County Surrey
Householder 14
Name Henry Dennis
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Dont Attend School
Birth Place Bermondsey
Birth County Surrey
Householder 15
Name Eliza Dennis
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Bermondsey
Birth County Surrey
Householder 16
Name Sarah Dennis
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Bermondsey
Birth County Surrey
Householder 17
Name Matilda Dennis
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 18
Name Joseph Rutland
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1799
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Labourer
Birth Place Henley
Birth County Oxfordshire
Householder 19
Name Elizabeth Rutland
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Writtle
Birth County Essex
Householder 20
Name Emma Rutland
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Needlewoman
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 21
Name Ann Rutland
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Needlewoman
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 22
Name Charles Rutland
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation School Boy
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 23
Name George Rutland
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation School Boy
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 24
Name Elizabeth Rutland
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 25
Name Anne Pickett
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1813
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Shirt Maker Having Parish
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 26
Name Emma Pickett
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Releife Scholar
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 27
Name Rosa Pickett
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Ratcliffe
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 28
Name Ellen English
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Nurse Child
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Rotherhithe
Birth County Surrey
Householder 29
Name Isabella English
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Nurse Child
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place North Shields
Birth County
Householder 30
Name Bridget Connor
Age 28
Estimated Year of Birth 1823
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Servant Out Of Place
Birth Place Limerick, Rab Hill
Birth County
Householder 31
Name P Atreel
Age 63
Estimated Year of Birth 1788
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Retired Carman
Birth Place Lewis
Birth County Sussex
Householder 32
Name Ann Atreel
Age 63
Estimated Year of Birth 1788
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Whissonsett
Birth County Norfolk
Householder 33
Name Thimothy Leary
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1814
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Bricklayer
Birth Place Bromley St Leonard
Birth County Sussex
Householder 34
Name Isabella Leary
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1816
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Shoreham
Birth County Sussex
Householder 35
Name Harriet Hewitt
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation Sempstress
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex
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1841 ????????
DENNIS, Edward M 20 1821 Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Elizabeth F 3 1838 Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Edward F 1 1840 Surrey VIEW
INNS, Elizabeth F 30 1811 Surrey VIEW
INNS, Rosinna F 13 1828 Surrey VIEW
INNS, John M 6 1835 Surrey VIEW
INNS, Caroline F 3 1838 Surrey VIEW
Piece: 1049
Book/Folio: 4/31
Page: 3
Registration District: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Municipal Borough:
Address: Crucifix Lane, Bermondsey
County: Surrey
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1851 ????????
WILLMOT, John C Head Married M 39 1812 Coal Whipper
Tund Hill Cottage, London VIEW
WILLMOT, Hannah M Wife Married F 42 1809 Coal Whipper's Wife
Wapping, Middlesex VIEW
WILLMOT, John G Son M 15 1836 Rope Ground Boy
Shadwell, Middlesex VIEW
WILLMOT, Joseph G Son M 14 1837 Errand Boy
Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
WILLMOT, Henry Son M 6 1845 Attends School
St Georges East, Middlesex VIEW
WILLMOT, Jesse Son M 5 1846 Attends School
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
WILLMOT, W S Son M 2 1849
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
RUSSELL, Louisa Head Widow F 46 1805 Chair Woman
Exeter VIEW
RUSSELL, William Son M 15 1836 No Occupation
St Georges Borough, Surrey VIEW
RUSSELL, John Son M 7 1844 Attends School
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
DENNIS, Edward Head Married M 34 1817 Coal Porter
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1820 Tailoress
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Edward Son M 11 1840 Dont Attend School
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Henry Son M 7 1844 Dont Attend School
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Eliza Daughter F 3 1848
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Sarah Daughter F 2 1849
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
DENNIS, Matilda Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1851
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Joseph Head Married M 52 1799 Labourer
Henley, Oxfordshire VIEW
RUTLAND, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1805
Writtle, Essex VIEW
RUTLAND, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Needlewoman
Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Needlewoman
Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Charles Son M 13 1838 School Boy
Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, George Son M 10 1841 School Boy
Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Elizabeth Grand Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1851
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
PICKETT, Anne Head Widow F 38 1813 Shirt Maker Having Parish
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
PICKETT, Emma Daughter F 9 1842 Releife Scholar
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
PICKETT, Rosa Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1851
Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW
ENGLISH, Ellen Nurse Child F 3 1848
Rotherhithe, Surrey VIEW
ENGLISH, Isabella Nurse Child F 2 1849
North Shields VIEW
CONNOR, Bridget Lodger Unmarried F 28 1823 Servant Out Of Place
Limerick, Rab Hill VIEW
ATREEL, P Head Married M 63 1788 Retired Carman
Lewis, Sussex VIEW
ATREEL, Ann Wife Married F 63 1788
Whissonsett, Norfolk VIEW
LEARY, Thimothy Head Married M 37 1814 Bricklayer
Bromley St Leonard, Sussex VIEW
LEARY, Isabella Wife Married F 35 1816
Shoreham, Sussex VIEW
HEWITT, Harriet Visitor Unmarried F 20 1831 Sempstress
Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
Piece: 1551
Folio: 237
Page: 25
Registration District: Stepney
Civil Parish: Stepney
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: 40, London Street, Stepney, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex
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Hi, Mavis -
If the marriage was 1844, then it was Elizabeth Walker he married. (Not that that helps to find his birthplace!)
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Edward Dennis
Name:
Edward Dennis
Age:
Full Age
Spouse Name:
Elizabeth Walker
Record Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
17 Sep 1844
Parish:
Lambeth St Mary
Borough:
Lambeth
Father Name:
Edward Dennis
Spouse Father Name:
Thomas Walker
Register Type:
Parish Register
I don't see a birth of an Edward Dennis, with father Edward Dennis, at the right time, in either Bermondsey or Southwark.
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A birth certificate of one of the children will have the mother's maiden name to tell you if it was Smith or Walker.
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If thats them that Maddie put up then this could be their wedding.
How do you know they married in 1844 please?
They round up their ages on the 1841 census so what Maddie put up is probably them.
1841 England Census
about Edward Dennis
Name: Edward Dennis
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1049
Book: 4
Folio: 31
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Dennis 20
Elizabeth Dennis 20
Elizabeth Dennis 3
Edward Dennis 1
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Edward Dennis
Name: Edward Dennis
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Clark
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 15 May 1837
Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses James Clark and Susannah Wright.
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Elizabeth Sarah Clark
Name: Elizabeth Sarah Clark
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Jul 1820
Father's Name: James Clark
Mother's name: Elizabeth Clark
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
No birth date recorded on this baptism but their address is Crusifix Lane<<<<<<<<<
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Thank you so much everyone for the information on Edward Dennis........going on information i already had ..think this is correct Elizabeth and all the children.Pity we cant find out where he was born.
Thank you again
Mavis
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I thought my post of the 1851 Census gave his place of birth for him in Bermondsey Surrey
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Most of the places of birth for Edward had Bermondsey Surrey it was only one that had Southwark which would be the same area anyway.
I would still like to know why you think the marriage in 1844 is the one. That could have been a second marriage but you will only find out by buying some birth certs for the children born before 1844 and the ones or one born before 1844 to the marriage in 1837.
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Sarah Dennis
Name: Sarah Dennis
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1849 BORN 13th Feb 1849
Father's Name: Edward Dennis
Mother's name: Elizabeth Sarah Dennis *************************
Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
address Webb Street and Edward is a Labourer.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Charles William Dennis
Name: Charles William Dennis
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1856
Father's Name: Edward Dennis CARMAN<<<<<<<<
Mother's name: Elizabeth Sarah Dennis **************
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address Edward St Mill St
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Hi Mel
Thanks again for your info.......i assumed Elizabeth Walker was Edwards second wife whom he married in 1844...7 years after his first Elizabeth!! although the 2 baptisms you have given me would have been when he was married to second wife..but first wife is named as mother??!!! I had done some checking of my own and had found the second marriage in 1844..it all added up to being correct.
Best Regards
Mavis
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If he was indeed married twice, to two Elizabeths, then this might possibly be the death of the first one:
Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%)
DENNIS Elizabeth Bermondsey 4 9
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Hi argyllgran,
Thanks for that...that would seem to add up.....was checking it out myself.
Regards
Mavis
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This looks like details of the Bermondsey death:
Name: Elizabeth Dennis
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1843
Burial Date: 12 Feb 1843
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register
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