This looks like details of the Bermondsey death:
Name: Elizabeth Dennis Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1843 Burial Date: 12 Feb 1843 Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Register
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Hi argyllgran, Thanks for that...that would seem to add up.....was checking it out myself. Regards Mavis
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If he was indeed married twice, to two Elizabeths, then this might possibly be the death of the first one:
Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%) DENNIS Elizabeth Bermondsey 4 9
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Hi Mel Thanks again for your info.......i assumed Elizabeth Walker was Edwards second wife whom he married in 1844...7 years after his first Elizabeth!! although the 2 baptisms you have given me would have been when he was married to second wife..but first wife is named as mother??!!! I had done some checking of my own and had found the second marriage in 1844..it all added up to being correct. Best Regards Mavis
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Sarah Dennis Name: Sarah Dennis Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1849 BORN 13th Feb 1849 Father's Name: Edward Dennis Mother's name: Elizabeth Sarah Dennis ************************* Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
address Webb Street and Edward is a Labourer. London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Charles William Dennis Name: Charles William Dennis Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1856 Father's Name: Edward Dennis CARMAN<<<<<<<< Mother's name: Elizabeth Sarah Dennis ************** Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers Address Edward St Mill St
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Most of the places of birth for Edward had Bermondsey Surrey it was only one that had Southwark which would be the same area anyway.
I would still like to know why you think the marriage in 1844 is the one. That could have been a second marriage but you will only find out by buying some birth certs for the children born before 1844 and the ones or one born before 1844 to the marriage in 1837.
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I thought my post of the 1851 Census gave his place of birth for him in Bermondsey Surrey
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Thank you so much everyone for the information on Edward Dennis........going on information i already had ..think this is correct Elizabeth and all the children.Pity we cant find out where he was born. Thank you again Mavis
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Sarah Clark Name: Elizabeth Sarah Clark Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 16 Jul 1820 Father's Name: James Clark Mother's name: Elizabeth Clark Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers No birth date recorded on this baptism but their address is Crusifix Lane<<<<<<<<<
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If thats them that Maddie put up then this could be their wedding.
How do you know they married in 1844 please?
They round up their ages on the 1841 census so what Maddie put up is probably them.
1841 England Census about Edward Dennis Name: Edward Dennis Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Surrey, England Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division) County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1049 Book: 4 Folio: 31 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Edward Dennis 20 Elizabeth Dennis 20 Elizabeth Dennis 3 Edward Dennis 1 London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Edward Dennis Name: Edward Dennis Spouse Name: Elizabeth Clark Record Type: Banns Event Date: 15 May 1837 Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses James Clark and Susannah Wright.
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A birth certificate of one of the children will have the mother's maiden name to tell you if it was Smith or Walker.
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Hi, Mavis -
If the marriage was 1844, then it was Elizabeth Walker he married. (Not that that helps to find his birthplace!)
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Edward Dennis Name: Edward Dennis Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Elizabeth Walker Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Sep 1844 Parish: Lambeth St Mary Borough: Lambeth Father Name: Edward Dennis Spouse Father Name: Thomas Walker Register Type: Parish Register I don't see a birth of an Edward Dennis, with father Edward Dennis, at the right time, in either Bermondsey or Southwark.
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1851 ???????? WILLMOT, John C Head Married M 39 1812 Coal Whipper Tund Hill Cottage, London VIEW WILLMOT, Hannah M Wife Married F 42 1809 Coal Whipper's Wife Wapping, Middlesex VIEW WILLMOT, John G Son M 15 1836 Rope Ground Boy Shadwell, Middlesex VIEW WILLMOT, Joseph G Son M 14 1837 Errand Boy Stepney, Middlesex VIEW WILLMOT, Henry Son M 6 1845 Attends School St Georges East, Middlesex VIEW WILLMOT, Jesse Son M 5 1846 Attends School Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW WILLMOT, W S Son M 2 1849 Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW RUSSELL, Louisa Head Widow F 46 1805 Chair Woman Exeter VIEW RUSSELL, William Son M 15 1836 No Occupation St Georges Borough, Surrey VIEW RUSSELL, John Son M 7 1844 Attends School Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW DENNIS, Edward Head Married M 34 1817 Coal Porter Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1820 Tailoress Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Edward Son M 11 1840 Dont Attend School Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Henry Son M 7 1844 Dont Attend School Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Eliza Daughter F 3 1848 Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Sarah Daughter F 2 1849 Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Matilda Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW RUTLAND, Joseph Head Married M 52 1799 Labourer Henley, Oxfordshire VIEW RUTLAND, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1805 Writtle, Essex VIEW RUTLAND, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Needlewoman Stepney, Middlesex VIEW RUTLAND, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Needlewoman Stepney, Middlesex VIEW RUTLAND, Charles Son M 13 1838 School Boy Stepney, Middlesex VIEW RUTLAND, George Son M 10 1841 School Boy Stepney, Middlesex VIEW RUTLAND, Elizabeth Grand Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW PICKETT, Anne Head Widow F 38 1813 Shirt Maker Having Parish Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW PICKETT, Emma Daughter F 9 1842 Releife Scholar Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW PICKETT, Rosa Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1851 Ratcliffe, Middlesex VIEW ENGLISH, Ellen Nurse Child F 3 1848 Rotherhithe, Surrey VIEW ENGLISH, Isabella Nurse Child F 2 1849 North Shields VIEW CONNOR, Bridget Lodger Unmarried F 28 1823 Servant Out Of Place Limerick, Rab Hill VIEW ATREEL, P Head Married M 63 1788 Retired Carman Lewis, Sussex VIEW ATREEL, Ann Wife Married F 63 1788 Whissonsett, Norfolk VIEW LEARY, Thimothy Head Married M 37 1814 Bricklayer Bromley St Leonard, Sussex VIEW LEARY, Isabella Wife Married F 35 1816 Shoreham, Sussex VIEW HEWITT, Harriet Visitor Unmarried F 20 1831 Sempstress Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
Piece: 1551
Folio: 237
Page: 25
Registration District: Stepney
Civil Parish: Stepney
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: 40, London Street, Stepney, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex refine search back to 1851 census search results 1851 address search
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1841 ???????? DENNIS, Edward M 20 1821 Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Elizabeth F 3 1838 Surrey VIEW DENNIS, Edward F 1 1840 Surrey VIEW INNS, Elizabeth F 30 1811 Surrey VIEW INNS, Rosinna F 13 1828 Surrey VIEW INNS, John M 6 1835 Surrey VIEW INNS, Caroline F 3 1838 Surrey VIEW
Piece: 1049
Book/Folio: 4/31
Page: 3
Registration District: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Municipal Borough:
Address: Crucifix Lane, Bermondsey
County: Surrey
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1851 Census Household Record Household Information Address London Street Parish Stepney District Stepney, Ratcliff Administrative County Middlesex Householder 1 Name John C Willmot Age 39 Estimated Year of Birth 1812 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Coal Whipper Birth Place Tund Hill Cottage Birth County London Householder 2 Name Hannah M Willmot Age 42 Estimated Year of Birth 1809 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Coal Whipper's Wife Birth Place Wapping Birth County Middlesex Householder 3 Name John G Willmot Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1836 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Rope Ground Boy Birth Place Shadwell Birth County Middlesex Householder 4 Name Joseph G Willmot Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Errand Boy Birth Place Stepney Birth County Middlesex Householder 5 Name Henry Willmot Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1845 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Attends School Birth Place St Georges East Birth County Middlesex Householder 6 Name Jesse Willmot Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1846 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Attends School Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 7 Name W S Willmot Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 8 Name Louisa Russell Age 46 Estimated Year of Birth 1805 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Chair Woman Birth Place Exeter Birth County Householder 9 Name William Russell Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1836 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation No Occupation Birth Place St Georges Borough Birth County Surrey Householder 10 Name John Russell Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1844 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Attends School Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 11 Name Edward Dennis Age 34 Estimated Year of Birth 1817 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Coal Porter Birth Place Bermondsey Birth County Surrey Householder 12 Name Elizabeth Dennis Age 31 Estimated Year of Birth 1820 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Tailoress Birth Place Bermondsey Birth County Surrey Householder 13 Name Edward Dennis Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1840 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Dont Attend School Birth Place Bermondsey Birth County Surrey Householder 14 Name Henry Dennis Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1844 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Dont Attend School Birth Place Bermondsey Birth County Surrey Householder 15 Name Eliza Dennis Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bermondsey Birth County Surrey Householder 16 Name Sarah Dennis Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bermondsey Birth County Surrey Householder 17 Name Matilda Dennis Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1851 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 18 Name Joseph Rutland Age 52 Estimated Year of Birth 1799 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Labourer Birth Place Henley Birth County Oxfordshire Householder 19 Name Elizabeth Rutland Age 46 Estimated Year of Birth 1805 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Writtle Birth County Essex Householder 20 Name Emma Rutland Age 21 Estimated Year of Birth 1830 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Needlewoman Birth Place Stepney Birth County Middlesex Householder 21 Name Ann Rutland Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1833 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Needlewoman Birth Place Stepney Birth County Middlesex Householder 22 Name Charles Rutland Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1838 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation School Boy Birth Place Stepney Birth County Middlesex Householder 23 Name George Rutland Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1841 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation School Boy Birth Place Stepney Birth County Middlesex Householder 24 Name Elizabeth Rutland Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1851 Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 25 Name Anne Pickett Age 38 Estimated Year of Birth 1813 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Shirt Maker Having Parish Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 26 Name Emma Pickett Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1842 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Releife Scholar Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 27 Name Rosa Pickett Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1851 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Ratcliffe Birth County Middlesex Householder 28 Name Ellen English Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Nurse Child Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Rotherhithe Birth County Surrey Householder 29 Name Isabella English Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Nurse Child Occupation Juvenile Birth Place North Shields Birth County Householder 30 Name Bridget Connor Age 28 Estimated Year of Birth 1823 Relationship to Head of Household Lodger Occupation Servant Out Of Place Birth Place Limerick, Rab Hill Birth County Householder 31 Name P Atreel Age 63 Estimated Year of Birth 1788 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Retired Carman Birth Place Lewis Birth County Sussex Householder 32 Name Ann Atreel Age 63 Estimated Year of Birth 1788 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Whissonsett Birth County Norfolk Householder 33 Name Thimothy Leary Age 37 Estimated Year of Birth 1814 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Bricklayer Birth Place Bromley St Leonard Birth County Sussex Householder 34 Name Isabella Leary Age 35 Estimated Year of Birth 1816 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Shoreham Birth County Sussex Householder 35 Name Harriet Hewitt Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1831 Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Occupation Sempstress Birth Place Stepney Birth County Middlesex
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???? Name: Edward Dennis ..............cordwainer Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Elizabeth Walker Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Sep 1844 Parish: Lambeth St Mary Borough: Lambeth Father Name: Edward Dennis Spouse Father Name: Thomas Walker Register Type: Parish Register
Could you tell us the name of their child who is the ancestor and we will be able to check it is the correct family.
Gwyn
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Please could anyone help with the birthdate of the above,.....i have tried everywhere that i can.....think was born c1817-1820 in Bermondsey? He got married c1844 to an Elizabeth, either Smith or Walker? They had 7-8 children..and he could possibly have died in 1883? Would be gratefull if anyone could help....this is my partners 3x great grandfather! Thank you Mavis
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