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Hi Mary,
Thank you for sorting me out with your most impressive gems of finds.

Based on the 1840 info I tried again with FreeBMD and asked it to look for wobblies :-

Marriages Dec 1840
Brookbank James Bradford
23 191

SMITH Sa___ Bradford
23 191

so it wasn't me that took the 's' out of Brooksbank or obliterated half of Sarah's name - lol

Witness to Jeremiah and Mary's wedding.
Hannah Maria Whalley 1852 married John William Feilding.
Parents of Hannah Maria were Matthew Whalley 1829 Denholme and Nanny nee Pickles born 1831 Denholme.

Nanny Pickles 1831 daughter of John Pickles 1787 and Hannah Brooksbank born 1789 Denholme.They were married 1807.
Hannah Brooksbank baptised 18/7/1789 by David Brooksbank born 1749 of Denholme she was baptised at St Michaels Haworth.

Now Mary Brooksbank's family?
David also baptised David Brooksbank at Haworth 3/3/1784 of Thornton/Denholme.(So David 1784 brother to hannah 1789)

David 1789 may have married 1807 in Bradford to Hannah Binns
There was a Hannah Brooksbank of Lodge Gate Denholme died 20/4/1825.
They baptised a David 20/4/1813. of Lodge Gate Denholme.
At the moment can't find Baptism for James circa 1819-1821.

1841 James is not with wife Sarah(she is with dad Isaac Smith)
daughter Menah Brooksbank 4 months (married Edward Foster 27/10/1860)Her dad down as James Brooksbank foundryman.

??1841 Horton Bradford D1 > 6
David Brooksbank 1786 beer seller
James 1821 a Delver
Edward 1821 Worsted Weaver.

The marriage of Sarah Smith and James brooksbank in 1840 is on Ancestry.co.uk as are the baptisms I have found.

Maryb.

Thank you Mary, this means that Mary's mother was James' sister, a Smith but I cannot find a marriage for her with James Brooksbank. The 1881 census gives Mary's place of birth as Denholme (after she was married so I know she is my Mary). I need to see if I can find James Smith's siblings. There does appear to be only one Mary 1851 in FreeBMD that could match so I will try and get the descendant to cough up (a friend of a friend who I don't know from Adam - Eve really)

Ftances

1861
Isaac and mary Smith
have G/Daughter mary Brooksbank age 10 worsted spinner

1871 Isaac Smith 1780
James Smith 1815 son
mary brooksbank neice,so Jame's neice.

1851
James Brooksbank born halifax 1818( stone Delver)
Sarah 1821 thornton/Denholme
Armene 10
Mary 2

Sarah Smith daughter of Isaac Smith a (Weaver)
married 18/10/1840 Bradford Cathederal to James Brooksbank residing in Denholme hid dad was David Brooksbank a BUTCHER.
Witnessed by John Miller and David Rushby?

Maryb

Thanks Jonesey, I don't think this is getting much clearer but it seems that my Mary Brooksbank 1851, father James, did not have grandparents Isaac and Mary Smith in 1861 unless they were just child minders referred to as granparents?

With regard to the address of 'Old Road Top' which you couldn't find in Bradford.

I looked on 1881 and this is the family living there:

1881 Census transcription details for: Old Rd Top, Thornton

National Archive Reference:
RG number RG11
Piece: 4469
Folio: 83
Page: 6
Reg. District: Bradford
Sub District: Thornton
Parish: Thornton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Old Rd Top, Thornton
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WHALLEY, Thomas Head Widower M 40 1841 General Labourer Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1865 Mill Hand In Worsted Factory Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Lucy Daughter Single F 13 1868 Mill Hand In Worsted Factory Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Janet Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Harry Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Denholme, Yorkshire
LAWRENCE, Edward Head Widower M 62 1819 Coal Merchant Thurnham, Yorkshire


One of the wirnesses at the wedding (Jeremiah and Mary) was Hannah Maria Fielding and her maiden name was Whaley:

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
FIELDING John William Bradford Y 9b 111 Scan available - click to view
Whaley Hannah Maria Bradford, Y. 9b 111 Scan available - click to view

So, this would be where Mary was staying before her wedding.


Doesn't really help us though but I found it so I'll post it ! ;-) :-D

Dea x

The Martha Smith who married that James Brooksbank was born as Martha Sharp:

Name: Martha Smith
Birth Year: abt 1822
Age: 37
Marriage or Bann Date: 5 Dec 1859
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: James Sharp
Spouse's Name: James Brooksbank
Spouse's Father's Name: David Brooksbank

Her previous husband was an Abraham Smith.

Name: Martha Sharp
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1844
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 23
Page Number: 221

Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BROOKSBANK Barina - Thornton Bradford THORN/15/45

Could this be listed under 'Intriguing'?
I was looking for James getting married before the birth of Mary 1851 ....???

Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1841
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BROOKSBANK Mena Thornton Bradford THORN/4/39

Name: James Brooksbank
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1859
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 138
Spouse: Martha Smith

You could be doing me out of a job Jonesey. I need to break off to check out the marriage of James and Martha - it looks very promising

another link to the Smiths
1841
SMITH, Isaac M 50 1791 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary F 50 1791 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Betty F 25 1816 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Martha F 20 1821 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Sarah F 20 1821 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Edward M 19 1822 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Jonathan M 17 1824 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Leah F 15 1826 Yorkshire VIEW
BROOKSBANK, Mena F 0 (4 months) 1841 Yorkshire VIEW

Piece: 1297

Book/Folio: 7/41

Page: 5

Registration District: Bradford

Civil Parish: Bradford

Municipal Borough:

Address: New Road Side, Bradford, Thornton

County: Yorkshire
refine search back to 1841 census search results

looks like maria on original

This looks quite interesting to me but James is not a butcher but who knows:

1861:
Name: James Brooksbank
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Brooksbank
Gender: Male
Where born: Denholme, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: Denholme Gate
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Thornton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 3337
Folio: 58
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
James Brooksbank 32
Martha Brooksbank 39
James Smith 16
Elisabeth Smith 14
Joseph Smith 12
Reuben Smith 10
Mary Rebecca Smith 8 born Denholme, Yorkshire
Emma Smith 6
Sarah Jane Brooksbank 10 Months

Sorry safc but I think Hemingbrough is near Selby - well away from Bradford, Denholme

Thank you Dea and Margee, unfortunately there is no Old Road Top listed in the current A-Z for Bradford.
I wonder if I can find the Smith grandaughter connection.....

????

Name: Mary Brooksbank
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Apr 1855
Christening Place: HEMINGBROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Brooksbank
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10922-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 991067
Reference ID:

Her address was 'Old Road Top' ??, Denholme and her father was a butcher (deceased). - spinster aged 25, Worsted weaver

His address - Denholme Lane, Denholme - Batchelor aged 21, wool sorter.

Witnesses John William Fielding and Hannah Maria Fielding.


Dea x

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Jeremiah Clapham Name: Jeremiah Clapham
Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 18 Nov 1876
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: William Clapham
Spouse's Name: Mary Brooksbank
Spouse's Father's Name: James Brooksbank

He's 21, a wool sorter, his father William a farmer. She's 25, a worsted weaver, her father James, deceased, a butcher.

Her father was James Brooksbank.

Can't get to the cert at the minute but I will come back with more info.

Dea x