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Hayley
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11 Mar 2013 11:55 |
Hi Everyone.
I wonder if anyone can help me. I am looking for the parents of John Marks Orpwood who was born 19/5/1905 in London, Poplar, he married Ellen May Bull in 1927.
I have been given some information that his parents could be Albert Orpwood and Alice Orpwood (I cannot find her maiden name) but I am really struggling to find any documents. I am new to this and all websites I try to use all want money and it is begining to cost me a small fortune.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Many thanks.
Hayley.
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2013 11:59 |
1911 census
Person: ORPWOOD, John Address: 28 Palace Road S Hackney N E ORPWOOD, Mr Albert Head Married M 33 1878 Labourer Out Of Work Bow London VIEW ORPWOOD, Alice Wife Married13 years F 32 1879 Hackney London VIEW ORPWOOD, Albert Son M 13 1898 Bow London VIEW ORPWOOD, Alice Daughter F 11 1900 Bow London VIEW ORPWOOD, Matthew Son M 8 1903 Bow London VIEW ORPWOOD, John Son M 5 1906 Bow London VIEW ORPWOOD, Jones Son M 4 1907 Hackney London VIEW ORPWOOD, Charlotte Daughter F 4 1907 Hackney London VIEW ORPWOOD, George Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Hackney London
To find Alice's maiden name...go to
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
It is, as the name suggests, completely FREE.
Put in his names, and her first name..............click 'find'.
Use the info about how long they have been married to be sure you pick the right marriage
Always use freebmd for BMD searches between 1837 and approx 1955
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 12:00 |
Hi Hayley and welcome to the boards.
Your first step should be to get his marriage cert - this will name his father. If you use the freebmd site: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
your should be able to find the index entry for it and you can order the cert from this site:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 12:03 |
This looks like his baptism - will save you the cost of a marriage and birth cert:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Marks Orpwood Name: John Marks Orpwood Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Jun 1905 Father's Name: Albert Orpwood Mother's name: Alice Orpwood Parish or Poor Law Union: Victoria Park St Mark Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers Alfred is a labourer and they are living at 26 Appian Road
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2013 12:04 |
1881 census
Person: ORPWOOD, Albert Address: 19, Beale Place, Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow
ORPWOOD, James Head Married M 43 1838 Segar Sorter (Tobac Manuf) Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Charlotte Wife Married F 39 1842 Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Ernest Son Single M 17 1864 Printers Lifter Dalston, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Madeline Daughter Single F 13 1868 Fancy Box Maker Mile End, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Alice Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, James Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Charlotte Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Bow, Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Albert Son Single M 3 1878 Bow, Middlesex VIEW DARBY, Eleanor Mother Widow F 63 1818 Newcastle, Northumberland
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Gwyn in Kent
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11 Mar 2013 12:07 |
Baptism image shows his birthdate as May 16th 1905, .... but that may have been copied wrongly, of course.
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Maddie
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11 Mar 2013 12:09 |
??????? Civil registration event: Marriage View the original image
Name: ORPWOOD, Albert Edward
Registration district: [?] Poplar
County: London
Year of registration: 1902
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 1C
Page no: [?] 819 MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] Albert Edward Orpwood married one of the following people Transcript COOPER, Alice Maude VIEW MARSH, Annie
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Hayley
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11 Mar 2013 12:10 |
Wow you all make it seam so easy to find this information!
Thank you so much for all your help! Hopefully I will now get somewhere :o)
Thank you everyone!
Hayley.
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Maddie
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11 Mar 2013 12:11 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Albert Edward Orpwood Name: Albert Edward Orpwood Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Age: 24 Spouse Name: Alice Maude Cooper Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 18 May 1902 Parish: Old Ford St Paul Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: James Orpwood Spouse Father Name: Matthew Cooper Register Type: Parish Register
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 12:14 |
A possible for Albert and Alice's marriage - but doesn' tie in with the 13 years married for the 1911 :
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Albert Edward Orpwood Name: Albert Edward Orpwood Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Age: 24 Spouse Name: Alice Maude Cooper Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 18 May 1902 Parish: Old Ford St Paul Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: James Orpwood Spouse Father Name: Matthew Cooper Register Type: Parish Register
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2013 12:14 |
1871 census
Person: ORPWOOD, Alice Address: Milton Road, Bow
ORPWOOD, James Head M 33 1838 Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Charlotte Wife F 27 1844 Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Ernest Son M 7 1864 Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Madaline Daughter F 3 1868 Middlesex VIEW ORPWOOD, Alice Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 12:21 |
Albert's WW1 Service record is on Ancestry - if you PM me your email address, I will send you the images. To send me a PM, click on my name in this post.
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2013 12:24 |
1871 census
Person: DARBY, Eleanor Address: White, Great, Ramsey
DARBY, George Head M 64 1807 Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Eleanor Wife F 53 1818 Northumberland VIEW DARBY, Arthur Son M 16 1855 Huntingdonshire
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Gwyn in Kent
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11 Mar 2013 12:27 |
They were referring to themselves as a couple when son Albert was baptised....
Name: Albert John Orpwood Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 20 Mar 1898 Father's Name: Albert Orpwood Mother's name: Alice Orpwood Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St John Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 12:28 |
Hayley, having looked at the 1911 census, I am wondering if we have got the right family. Although the WW1 record ties up with some of the children in the 1911, the marriage in 1902 doesn't agree with the census and on the image of the 1911, he looks like W Albert, not Mr Albert. I think we need to do some more searching.
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2013 12:31 |
George with first wife
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Person: DARBY, Arthur Address: Great White, Ramsey Cost
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. refine search back to 1861 census search resultsBack to all search results Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image DARBY, George Head Married M 54 1807 Cordwainer Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Ruth Wife Married F 51 1810 Colne, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 21 1840 Milliner And Dressmaker Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Mary A Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Sempstress Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Fred Son M 12 1849 Scholar Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Amos Son M 9 1852 Scholar Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Arthur Son M 6 1855 Scholar Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW DARBY, Charlotte M Granddaughter F 0 (5M) 1861 Ramsey, Huntingdonshire
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11 Mar 2013 12:44 |
Looks the the son George on the 1911 census died?
Births Sep 1910 ORPWOOD George E Hackney 1b 485 Deaths Mar 1912 Orpwood George E 1 Poplar 1c 527
Births Mar 1913 Orpwood George L Cooper Hackney 1b 828
Births Jun 1916 Orpwood Lilian Cooper Hackney 1b 804
Births Dec 1919 Orpwood Harry E Cooper Hackney 1b 866
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 12:44 |
Just checked the Army record, and Alice (Lilian) was born in February 1900 - so before the marriage and Albert has served in the Army before.
Think we have the correct family - just wish we could find them in 1901! Perhaps Albert was in the Army then. Could somebody with FMP see if there is an Army record on ther for him? He served in the 3rd Royal Fusiliers.
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Maddie
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11 Mar 2013 13:19 |
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First name(s): Albert
Last name: ORPWOOD
Calculated year of birth: 1878
Parish of birth: Oldford
Town of birth:
County of birth: London
Age at attestation: 18 years 3 months
Attestation date: 24 January 1896
Attestation corps: 7TH BATTALION THE RIFLE BRIGADE REGIMENT
Attestation soldier number: 4891
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps: Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO96 / 1268 / 80
There are 3 images available for this soldier
lived at 39 Allamouth Road Hackney Wick he was a printer and single discharged 10/4/1906
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Potty
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11 Mar 2013 13:30 |
Not sure if that is him, Maddie. He is shown as a labourer on son's baptism in 1905.
Have sent Hayley the WW1 images.
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