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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 18:41 |
Hit a brick wall with Edward Taylor 1901 census RG13-2870-157-39 Has him married to Mary McCoy. 1891 has him lodging with her. Her two younger children Edward and James (my GF) become Taylors after the marriage, given they were born after Mr McCoys death!!! Cant find a marriage certificate for clues either, Wondering if he was married previously given he was 38 when lodging with them???
Any clues where to start please??
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AnnCardiff
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9 Nov 2012 18:56 |
Hello Karen - welcome to the boards
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name: Charles William /Taylor/ gender: Male birth: 1827 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England
Parents father: Edward /Taylor/ mother: Frances /Thomas/
Marriages (1) spouse: Elizabeth /Phillips/ marriage: 1848 Kings Norton,B/Ham Hide children (12) child 1: John /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1853 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 2: William /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1851 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 3: Frances /Taylor/ gender: Female BIRTH 1855 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 4: Edward /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 21 January 1850 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England BAPTISM 25 March 1850 DEATH 28 August 1901 child 5: Alfred J. /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1873 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 6: Elizabeth /Taylor/ gender: Female BIRTH 1856 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 7: Ernest /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1875 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England DEATH 1 October 1876 child 8: Harriet /Taylor/ gender: Female BIRTH 1858 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 9: Charles Thomas /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1859 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England BAPTISM 8 January 1860 St.Stephens,B/Ham child 10: Frederick /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1871 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England child 11: Albert /Taylor/ gender: Male BIRTH 1862 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England BAPTISM 22 June 1862 St.Stephen,B/Ham child 12: Alice Jane /Taylor/ gender: Female BIRTH 1867 BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England Notes ¦Executer of Frederick Cornwall s Will. 1861 100,Steelhouse Lane,B/Ham.
1881 101,Woodcock Street,Aston,B/Ham.
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AnnCardiff
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9 Nov 2012 19:01 |
when were children Edward and James born?
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brummiejan
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9 Nov 2012 19:10 |
Can you put 1901 census transcription on here please? Just for reference. Jan
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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 19:12 |
Edward 1891-1916 James b1889 died 6/7/55 married Lizzie Dolloway. Both were registered as McCoy at birth I think.
Can I ask how you found the above so quickly please???
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Andrew
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9 Nov 2012 19:17 |
1901 for ref
1901 England Census about Edward Taylor Name: Edward Taylor Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Duddeston ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 205 Piece: 2870 Folio: 157 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Edward Taylor 51 Mary A Taylor 49 Edward Taylor 10 James Taylor 8 William Mc Coy 20 Sarah Mc Coy 22
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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 19:18 |
1901
Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence County/Island: Warwickshire
Registration district:Aston Sub-registration district: Duddeston
Piece: 2870 Folio: 157 Page Number: 39
all born Birmingham
Edward Taylor 51 navvy Mary A Taylor 49 wife Edward Taylor 10 son James Taylor 8 son William Mc Coy 20 step son brickcaster Sarah Mc Coy 22 step dau w'house hand
address 74 Richard St, Aston
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Andrew
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9 Nov 2012 19:18 |
Mary in 1881 for ref.
David appears to have died 1884
1881 England Census about Mary McCoy Name: Mary McCoy Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: David McCoy Gender: Female Where born: Birmingham Civil parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 8 H 9 CT Blews St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2996 Folio: 94 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age David McCoy 37 Mary McCoy 33 Thomas McCoy 14 Cathrine McCoy 13 Winifred McCoy 9 David McCoy 5 Sarah McCoy 3 William McCoy
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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 19:18 |
1891 for reference
MCCOY, Mary A Head Widow F 41 1850 Lathe Worker Birmingham MCCOY, David Son Single M 15 1876 Iron Caster Birmingham MCCOY, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1878 Birmingham MCCOY, William Son M 11 1880 Birmingham MCCOY, Annie Daughter F 5 1886 Birmingham MCCOY, Edward Son M 3 1888 Birmingham MCCOY, James Son M 1 1890 Birmingham TAYLOR, Edward Lodger Single M 38 1853 Labourer Birmingham
Piece:2419 Folio:19 Page: 31
Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Nechells Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 4, 20 Court, Adam Street, Nechells, Birmingham Warwickshire
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Andrew
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9 Nov 2012 19:19 |
Mary was a Taylor as well
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- McCoy David Birmingham 6d 244 Taylor Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 244
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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 19:26 |
Andy...
Now you have really confused me :-S :-S :-S, especially as I cant find a marriage for Edward and Mary
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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 19:37 |
This census thing is so confusing with the changes in age. in 1891 he's 38 10 yrs later he's 51????
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9 Nov 2012 21:00 |
1871 MYCOY, David Head M 28 1843 Shropshire (Gun Maker) MYCOY, Marrion Wife F 23 1848 Warwickshire MYCOY, Mary Daughter F 6 1865 Warwickshire MYCOY, Thomas Son M 4 1867 Warwickshire MYCOY, Kate Daughter F 1 1870 Warwickshire Piece: 3129 Folio: 39 Page: 23 Registration District: Birmingham Civil Parish: Birmingham Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Hampton Street, Great Court House, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
Chris :)
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brummiejan
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9 Nov 2012 22:53 |
Karen, I wouldn't worry too much about the age discrepancy 1891 and 1901. It's only 3 years - slightly more than you usually see, but not that unusual. If all other info fits just ignore it. Jan
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Karen
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9 Nov 2012 23:42 |
Sorry if I sound stupid but does that mean what Anncardiff posted was a possibility or has the research done shown that it is the same Edward??? I dont know how to get past that which I can prove to finding which of many possibilities are correct- if you know what I mean. Which is why I asked if those more experienced could tell me how to narrow things down if possible.
Thanks.
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Nov 2012 07:49 |
Deaths Dec 1925 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- McCoy Mary A 75 Birmingham S. 6d 285
(wonder if above is her?)
(looking again at 1901 image, think Brasscaster is occupation of William)
Chris :)
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Karen
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10 Nov 2012 17:41 |
Thanks Chris. The family were definately brass casters/ iron workers. The 1871 Census is worth another look as I cant find a 1871 on free cen for McCoy. Still need to find a definative dob for Edward Taylor to trace any further back :-(
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Karen
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28 Apr 2014 13:38 |
Resurrecting this post as I have hit a real brick wall. I am trying to obtain GF birth certificate without luck. James Taylor/ McCoy b 1890 and his brother Edward b1887 (army records have 8/1887). The geneologist at Birmingham could only find a certificate for Annie McCoy with david McCoy as Father. national GRO search under james Taylor came back negative have reapplied for taylor/mcCoy but dont seem to be getting anywhere.
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Karen
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28 Apr 2014 13:58 |
name: Edwardus Taylor gender: Male baptism/christening date: 19 Oct 1888 baptism/christening place: Birmingham, Warwick, England birth date: 25 Mar 1888 birthplace: death date: name note: race: I have this on record but still cant find a birth registration??
father's name: Edwardi Taylor father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Mariae Mccoy Taylor mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C01845-0 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1999524 reference number: item 2 Citing this Record
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brummiejan
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28 Apr 2014 17:49 |
Looks like there are 3 possibles:
Births Jun 1886 (>99%) TAYLOR Edward Birmingham 6d 136 TAYLOR Edward Bernard Birmingham 6d 75
Births Sep 1886 (>99%) TAYLOR Edward Powers Birmingham 6d 165
If your had no middle name, he might be the 1st one, though impossible to be sure.
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