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Martin

Martin Report 12 May 2012 19:30

Hi all
I was trying to find information about my 2x great grand aunt Lena Reed who was born around 1890 in Plympton, Plymouth. Her father was called John Henry Reed and Florence Maria Pote.
Im trying to find if she married and had any children and where she was in the 1911 census.
Thanks
Martin

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 May 2012 19:37

She was with her gran in 1911:

POTE, Ann Head Widow F 75 1836 Devon Plympton St Maurice
PAINTER, Ruth Lousia Granddaughter F 17 1894 Domestic Servant Plympton St Maurice
POTE, Samuel Lodger Widower M 52 1859
REED, Lena Granddaughter Single F 21 1890 Plympton St Maurice

RG number: RG14 Piece: 12922 Reference: RG14PN12922 RG78PN746 RD275 SD2 ED7 SN38

Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub District: Plympton
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Plympton St Maurice

Address: Brewery Cottages Plympton St Maurice County: Devonshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 May 2012 19:38

You'll need to search for possible marriages and subsequent issue on FreeBMD: http://www.freebmd.org.uk

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 12 May 2012 19:41

This is Lena's family in 1911

Name: Florence M Reed
Age in 1911: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Plympton St Maurice, Devon
Civil parish: Plympton St Maurice
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Brew House, Brewery Cottages, Plympton St Maurice
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Estimated Marriage Year: 1883
Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Registration District Number: 275
Sub-registration district: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 12922
Household Members:
Name Age
John Herry Reed 51 occ Farm Labourer
Florence M Reed 48 occ Charwoman
Cecel John Reed 12
James Herry Reed 7
Ernest Thomas J Reed 11/12 Grandson

Looking at image

Lena Reed aged 21
&
Stella Rose Reed aged 18
both listed as Domestic Servants

were on the Schedule but their names have been crossed out

Martin

Martin Report 13 May 2012 07:48

Thanks for all your help i now need help in locating Lenas father John Henry Reed in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 census. Would like to know what his parents were called.

patchem

patchem Report 13 May 2012 07:59

Is not the 1881 census free to search?

1861 England Census
John Hy Reed Age: 10 Months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos Reed
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Reed
Gender: Male Where born: Plympton, Devon, England
Civil parish: Plympton St Maurice County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plympton St Mary Sub-registration district: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 1431 Folio: 14 Page Number: 4

Thos Reed 32 miner Cornwall
Elizabeth Reed 38 Tavistock
Richd John Reed 18 son-in-law Plympton
Thos Reed 11 son-in-law
Elizth J T Reed 5 dau
Eliza Ann Reed 4 dau
John Hy Reed 10 Months son

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1431; Folio: 14; Page: 4; GSU roll: 542811.

patchem

patchem Report 13 May 2012 08:07

1871 England Census
John H Reed Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Lowden
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lowden
Gender: Male
Where born: Plympton St Marick, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 128 Piece: 2561 Folio: 41 Page Number: 25

Thomas Lowden 66 gardemer Brixton Devon
Elizabeth Lowden 46 Tavistock
Thomas Reed 22 son
Elizabeth J Reed 16 dau
Eliza A Reed 14 dau
John H Reed 10 son
Jemima Reed 3 dau

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2561; Folio: 41; Page: 25; GSU roll: 835267.

You need John's marriage and birth certificates to confirm his parents' names.

Added:
This is probably Elizabeth's next marriage, you need the certificate to confirm:
Marriages Dec 1868
Burt Susan Plymouth 5b 505
xxx LOWDEN Thomas Plymouth 5b 505
xxx Reed Elizabeth Plymouth 5b 505
Tonkins William Plymouth 5b 505

Martin

Martin Report 13 May 2012 08:14

Thanks for all your help patchem, Ill be ordering his marriage and birth certificates when i can.

Martin

Martin Report 12 Aug 2012 22:20

Hi all,
I need help in finding who Lena Reed married and any children from that marriage.

patchem

patchem Report 12 Aug 2012 22:26

?
Marriages Sep 1911
Carn Ernest A Plympton 5b 471
Doney William H Plympton 5b 471
Reed Lena Plympton 5b 471
Smith Laura Plympton St Mary 5b 471

??
Births Dec 1912
CARN Eileen F R Reed
Births Jun 1914
Carn Lilian M M Reed
Births Jun 1915
Carn Ernest A J Reed
Births Jun 1916
Carn William C J Reed
Births Jun 1917
Carn Lena M Reed
Births Mar 1919
Carn Arras V G Reed
Births Sep 1920
Carn Joseph M J Reed

These were all from free bmd, free for all to search.
(Joseph, Ernest and Arras all diied as babies)

Added:
As was this:
Deaths Jun 1954
Carn Lena 63 Plympton 7a 698

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2012 22:29

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Lena Reed
Name: Lena Reed
Spoose: Ernest A Cam
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Inferred County: Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 471



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Lena Carn
Name: Lena Carn
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1954
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Plympton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 698



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2012 23:06

I wonder if this is Ernest......although i can't see a birth or death for him.

??

1901 England Census
about Ernest A Cam
Name: Ernest A Cam
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Devonport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Devonport
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 2107
Folio: 125
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John J Cain 61 (Widower) Pensioner HM Dockyard
Frederick J Cain 18 (Brother)
Ernest A Cam 19 (Boarder) Excavating Navvy


Looking st the 1891 census Frederick in the son of John J Cain.

(Note the Surnames are CAIN and CAM so not related)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2012 23:33

Possibly

??

Births Mar 1882 (>99%)
Carn Ernest Arthur Stoke D. 5b 336


??

1891 England Census
about Ernest A Carne
Name: Ernest A Carne
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Carne
Mother's Name: Mary I Carne
Gender: Male
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil parish: Gwennap
Ecclesiastical parish: Gwennap
Town: Greensplat and Bissoe Hill
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Gwennap
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1844
Folio: 82
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Carne 50 (Naval Pensioner)
Mary I Carne 46
William H Carne 20
Beatrice Carne 15
Ernest A Carne 9
Florence Carne 7
Septimus Carne 4
John Squires 69 (Lodger)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2012 23:35

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Ernest A Carn
Name: Ernest A Carn
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1932
Age at Death: 50
Registration district: Plympton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 264


It's quite late now...........will check back on here tomorrow.

patchem

patchem Report 13 Aug 2012 00:12

William C J Carn
Birth Date: abt 1917
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1967
Age at Death: 50
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 671

Get the death certificate for name of informant who may be a relative?

?
Eunice Mary Carn
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1920
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1982
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 1746

Marriages Dec 1942
Carn William C J Rashleigh Plympton 5b 577
Rashleigh Eunice M Carn Plympton 5b 577

Martin

Martin Report 13 Aug 2012 06:12

thanks everyone for all of ur help, it has helped alot

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Aug 2012 10:07

The reason i was unsure of Ernest is that the Ancestry version of Ernest and Lena's marriage Reg gives his surname as CAM.

Looking back at the original image of the 1901 census, it looks like the enumerator has corrected the surname to read CARN.

So it looks like we are on the right track for Ernest CARN.


His parents in 1901

1901 England Census
about William Carn
Name: William Carn
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Carn
Gender: Male
Where born: Overton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Kea
Ecclesiastical parish: Baldhu
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Kea
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 2224
Folio: 41
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Carn 60 (Retired Naval Serviceman)
Mary Jane Carn 54
Septimus Thos Carn 14
John Squire 86 (Lodger)
John F Kent 10 (Boarder)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Aug 2012 11:26

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: CARN, Mary Jane
Address: 1 Duke St Ope Devonport

CARN, Mary Jane Head Widow F 65 1846 None Holberton Devon VIEW
CARN, Thomas Son Single M 24 1887 Blacksmith In Perranwell Cornwall VIEW
HOLMAN, May Granddaughter Single F 15 1896 None Perranwell Cornwall VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 13020
Reference: RG14PN13020 RG78PN751 RD278 SD1 ED6 SN335
Registration District: Devonport
Sub District: St Aubyn
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: Devonport
Address: 1 Duke St Ope Devonport
County: Devonshire
(6 children born and living)


It seems Septimus preferred his second name of Thomas in the 1911

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
CARN Septimus Thomas Redruth 5c 194



Death of William

??
Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
CARN William Henry 66 Liskeard 5c 29



Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%)
Carn Mary J 70 Devonport 5b 486a


Martin

Martin Report 11 May 2014 15:24

Hi i was wondering what happened to thomas reed, elizabeth reeds first husband before she married thomas lowden

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 May 2014 15:35

Have you looked on FreeBMD for a death for him please?