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Hydes - Updated 21/12/2013

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HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 12 Dec 2013 19:21

Still talking to myself..

ather: Philip Leacey
spouse: Elizabeth Hyde
other: Jonathan Clarke
Name George William Leacey
Birth Date
Birthplace
Age
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Hyde
Spouse's Birth Date
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age
Event Date 07 Jul 1859
Event Place Malvern Wells, Worcester, England
Father's Name Philip Leacey
Mother's Name
Spouse's Father's Name Jonathan Clarke

Oh the embarrassment bigamists both :-)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 14 Dec 2013 17:58

OK I have ordered the certificate for George's marriage to Elizabeth and Elizabeth's to William Leacey....will update accordingly.

Meanwhile trying to bottom out the other siblings....

I have Elizabeth (1824) up to the 1901 census

Name: Elizabeth Hyde
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Malvern Wells, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

But I can't find her in 1911 or a death to match.

and so the unresolved siblings...

starting with the two I am least hopeful for because of the unbelievably common names..

Jane born Alfrick and Lulsley Worcestershire in 1816

John born Lower Mtton 1825

But then there's Henry... I have a christening Date 28 Sep 1823 Christening Place Astley, Worcester, England Father's Name John Hyde Mother's Name Harriet

And then nothing....

I have discounted Henry married to Elizabeth (Probert) but remain open to convincing otherwise...

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 21 Dec 2013 09:00

I have now received all the certificates and the plot thickens! But I think I may have gone as far as I can :-(

For starters...I think I have found the deaths of father, John, in July 1830 and mother, Harriett, in January 1834. Both in Hanley Castle. Obviously both are a guess but the ages fit and the location fits. It would explain why I can't find either of them in any of the censuses and it would explain (quite neatly) why I have had difficulty finding any of the children in 1841 given they were between 8 and 23 when orphaned.

But back to George....working back from the 1851 census where George, a shoemaker, is living with his wife Elizabeth born Headcorn Kent. So the marriage in Brighton to Elizabeth Clark shows them both to be of full age. He was described as a private in the 16th Royal Lancers and his address prior to the marriage looks like "Greenwich" in the county of Suffolk.

So in her remarriage in 1859 in Hanley Castle to George William Leacey she claims to be widowed.

There are two deaths for George Hyde in Upton (the parish which would included Hanley Castle) that would fit with her widowhood but I can't find them on FMP to get any idea of the age. But I still believe he left for Australia where he married as a bachelor to Sarah Cooke in 1858.

I guess I'll never prove or disprove any of this.....how did George go from being a Lancer to a shoemaker? The 16th Lancers were at the Battle of Aliwal in 1846 - was George there? When did he join? Oh for a magic mirror that would let me go back to the time between Harriet's death in 1834 and George leaving for Australia in 1853/4 - I still can't find an emigration for him allegedly arriving on the William Money in 1854

Jude