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Can anyone help please? Family history is that my father Andrew Kelly was in WW1 merchant navy was shipwrecked 3 times and then joined the Army.I would guess Artillery as he lost his index fire when the repeater gun jammed.His DoB 15.08.1895 and his address was G court Oxford Terrace Sylvester (Silvester) Street Liverpool His widowed mother was Margaret Kelly.How can I find his service number (s) as there are dozens & dozens of Andrew Kelly on Ancestry.
His brother Phlip was killed and he is listed as just P.Kelly so Dad could also be just A.Kelly
I have tried National Archives lloking for details by NOK but no luck so would appreciate any help

Does anyone know of a next of kin site for men who served in WW1

i don't know a next of kin site but if you open the Ancestry pages it usually gives the next of kin.

Regards

Catherine

Could this be him, found at Ancestry.com in the british army WW1 records

Andrew Kelly 17 Nursery St Liverpool
1914 ??3 8th Irish Batt K L R

For reference, - this looks like the family on 1901 at 54 Johnson St. ??

1901 England Census
about Andrew Kelly Name: Andrew Kelly
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Kelly
Mother's Name: Margaret Kelly
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas and St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Kelly 45 Dock Labr. ... ALL born Liverpool.
Margaret Kelly 42
Mary E Kelly 19
Thomas Kelly 18
Joseph Kelly 16
John Kelly 14
James Kelly 13
William Kelly 11
Edward Kelly 9
Phillip Kelly 7 ***
Andrew Kelly 5 ***

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3413; Folio: 42; Page: 31.

Do I have the correct ones?

Dea x

Re: The Army detail posted by Carol above on an Andrew at 17 Nursery St.

His records show a next of kin as 'Maria' Kelly (Mother), so I don't think it is him.

Dea x

Thanks for all your help .Yes they did live in Johnson Street in 1901 .The Nursery Street is not them as they later moved in with my Dad's married sister and the Sylvester St is given as Next of Kin address for my uncle Philip (P) when he was killed .Ancestry has so many Andrew Kelly's I would probably use up loads of credits and still not find my Dad's records.I have been down the Ancestry road before and done just that.
Once again many thanks
Mary

The records on Ancestry are for the Army. Merchant Navy is not included.

Merchant Navy WW1 medal records are here

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/

annielaurie big apology for not answering sooner but after reading your reply I got into National Archives site and did not finish looking until late.Merchant navy crew records are in Find my past site but I did find army site and have now got a list of 16 possible army numbers for my Dad all I need now is ti find out how I can check on these numbers to see if any relate to Dad
I will win in the end
Many thanks
Mary

Just one piece of advice/information. During WW1 if you had an Irish surname you would usually be put in an Irish regiment. Also, towards the latter stages as more men were being killed, the remainder of one regiment would be included into another regiment and would then probably be given a new service number. My grandfather was born in England of Irish parents and actually joined up in Fulham, and even though he was married and had children, he was sent to Cork to join an Irish regiment which then served in the Balkans as well as other places.

Thanks Betty for that advice Dad was of Irish parents so same might apply.We think he served on the Somme and lost his index finger when those machine guns overheated and jammed so will work on artillery basis and also as he was from Liverpool checking Lpool regiments
Many thanks
Mary

Dea
On 2 April thread you rightly said "it shows his next of kin as Maria" so cannot be correct.Where did you look to find the next of kin details?
Mary

Dea where did you find next of kin details. Ancestry provided a few NOK but not all. Many thanks Mary

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Dea As Ancestry only shows a few next of kin addresses any suggestions as to how I find out which is the correct Army number to find out his record.Many thanks for any help you can give

Just to update Dad's medals were eventually found .His Army number was on his medal and through National Archives found his index card for a £2.00 fee. Just need to find names ofships he served on between 1914 and 1916 now

Can you tell us the Number please Mary, might help with below...

Chris :)

UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972

(if your talking Ships, might be something on above, Ancestry?)


British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

(the above on Ancestry)

Hi Chris Apologies for delay in reply.Dad's medal shows as 130533 but his index card at National Archives was 30533 shows he was in Machine Gun Corps from 2.3.16 - 28.2.19 and was awarded Badge and Medal.
I have received his index card for his Merchant Navy service but does not give very much information GR52A
Andrew Kelly Lpool Born 1895 Caning Pl Lpool
Mercantile Marine Ribbon 8/10/19
Mercantile Marine Medal 28/4/21
9 oxford Terr Silvestor St liverpool
Application dated 9/10/19
Address is correct for Dad but do not knows where to go from here.Any help would be greatly appreciated
Mary

On having another look round on National Archives and above links, also on FMP, as they added below Records last week, but no lo luck as yet!...

Merchant Navy Seamen 1918-1941

Chris :)

Image details (from NA Documents Online, which I gather you have)

Description Medal Card of Kelly, Andrew
Place of Birth: Liverpool

Date 1895
Catalogue reference BT 351/1
Dept Records of the Board of Trade and of successor and related bodies
Series Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Index of First World War Mercantile Marine Medals and the British War Medal

Hi Chris Thanks for trying to help.I have just received a reply from N.A. as to whether reverse of Dad's card shows any ships he sailed on and the answer is no information on reverse. According to find my Past they did occasionally list ships on reverse. One day out of the blue the answer may just turn up

Once again thank you
Mary

Hi re. above thread which is now very old but still not resolved in spite of trying hard . Has anyone got any new suggestions as to where I might find my Dad.s
Naval Service Record number
:-(