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Paula-Ann
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20 Apr 2013 10:32 |
Hi Sheila,
The wonders of google found me this post. Alice Amelia Ann Gibbins (nee Pendleton) is my 2nd cousin 3x removed via her mother, who is my 1st cousin 4x removed.
Amelia Ann Bolwell's father Benjamin is my 4 x great grandfather's brother. My 4x gt grandfather was taken to Australia as a convict where his surname was mistakenly known as Bolton but he changed his son's surname to Bolin. My father is a direct descendant to the Bolwell family of England but his father changed his name again so we were none the wiser of being Bolin/Bolwell's.
So all of this is a nice find for our family.
I've messaged you hoping to make contact either way.
Paula
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Cynthia
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31 Jul 2011 16:57 |
Hello Lyn,
It's been a while since Sheila posted her message and she may not be checking for replies. You can try clicking on her name and sending your message that way. If she still has the same email address she will be notified.
Also, if you are wanting to further your research re this family, then do try putting the names into the Search Tree box (in the dark green bar above), to see if anyone else has them in their tree.
If you would like some help with your research, then why not start a thread of your own? Take a look at the first message on this board for further advice. Regards. Cx.
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Lyn
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31 Jul 2011 07:09 |
Hello Sheila
Have only just seen your post. I believe your James Gibbins was the brother of my close friend's great-grandfather John Gibbins. He had sisters Jeannie (Martha Jane), Elizabeth and Emma. I believe my friend Marea has a photo of two of these. There was a brother William.
The parents of John and James were John (1834 Manchester) and Elizabeth (c 1834 Longridge, Preston.) The earliest Gibbins we have are John (1801) and Cecily (1804) both born in Cheshire.
Cheers Lyn (in Adelaide!)
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Sheila
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3 Feb 2011 16:02 |
Please can anyone help
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Sheila
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2 Feb 2011 11:44 |
Is it possible to find out what James Pendleton and Amelia Bolwell were listed as on the ships records? My mother in Law is convinced they may have been shipped out to Australia for some crime. As she is now 90 years old I would love to give her an answer. I suspect reality is they just hoped for a better life. Also is it possible to find out when they came to England as I know there was only Alice and James listed on the census as being the 2 surviving children. So I would think the four of them came here together and settled in Manchester near James Family.
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Sheila
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1 Feb 2011 11:01 |
Hi Kerri and Mel75 Thank you so much it looks like you have found them it's very interesting as last night I found a Amelia Bolwell Age 12 in Wiltshire who was aquitted of larceny in 1846 at the local court. I also found her on the 1841 Census living in Bradford Wiltshire and her Father is Benjamin and Mother Charlotte. at the time she was 6yrs Old. But the records show her as being the 4th Daughter. The insolvency and the letter sound interesting it may be a reason why he they came back to England.
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MeJoy75
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1 Feb 2011 05:04 |
Arrival of Amelia in Queensland??
Surname Name Age Ship Arrival Date Bolwell Amelia 29 Light of the Age 27 Jan 1864
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Kerri
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31 Jan 2011 22:46 |
The Brisbane Courier ; Friday 17 June 1864
PENDLETON-BOLWELL.-On the 9th June, at Wickham Terrace, by special license, by the Rev. James Love, Mr. James Pendleton, builder, to Amelia Ann, third daughter of Benjamin Bolwell, Esq., Bradford, England.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1259135?searchTerm=&searchLimits=l-publictag=Amelia+Ann+Bolwell
TROVE also has births for children,also see insolvency information for James
Interesting- The Argus ; Thursday 3 August 1854 JAMES PENDLETON, late from Manchester, Eng- land-a letter from E. Shaw awaits you at Melbourne Post Office._99 y
???????????? Immigration to Victoria 1852-79 Surname: PENDLETON Given Names: JAS Ship: EPAMINONDAS Month: NOV Year: 1852 Age: Code: F Fiche: 004 Page: 005
No other PENDLETON's on this ship. Fiche may have more information.
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Sheila
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31 Jan 2011 12:45 |
Can anyone tell me how I can find out why my ancestors went to Australia and how I can trace when they departed
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Sheila
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30 Jan 2011 17:30 |
Thank you so much Mel I think the John James and Amelia in Prestwich will be the correct ones as my Mother in Law remembers her Grandmother was Alice Amelia born in Australia and her brother James who used to visit them at her Fathers house in Polygon Road. But I would like to know how to find out how and why they went to Australia, not sure where to begin but I believe you can research shipping records? If you have any tips please let me know. Many thanks Sheila
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MeJoy75
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30 Jan 2011 12:31 |
It looks like all the family returned to the U.K. maybe someone with access to the 1891 Census can check for you. There was a James, John & Amelia A Pendleton in Prestwich, not sure if the correct family.
Sadly the death of Thomas in Queensland
Yr/Registration Name Surname Fathers Name Mothers Name
1875/B9046 Thomas William Pendleton James Amelia Ann Bolwell
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Sheila
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30 Jan 2011 11:23 |
Thank you so much for all the information. I think I now need to find out more information on why Alice left Australia I believe she had a brother in Manchester but I don't know if the whole family came to Manchester or just the two of them and why? Do you know where I should look next? Many thanks Sheila
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Kerri
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29 Jan 2011 22:40 |
From Queensland,Australia Births- Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name 1865/B4347 Alice Amelia Ann Pendleton James Amelia Ann Bolwell 1868/B8867 Julia Elizabeth Pendleton James Amelia Ann Bolwell 1871/B12550 James Pendleton James Amelia Ann Bolwell 1871/B13326 John Pendleton James Amelia Ann Bolwell 1873/B16653 Thomas William Pendleton James Amelia Ann Bolwell
From Queensland ,Australia Marriages- Reg # Marriage Party Surname Marriage Party Given Name(s) Marriage Party Surname Marriage Party Given Name(s) 1864/B925 Pendleton James Bolwell Amelia Ann
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
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MeJoy75
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29 Jan 2011 19:49 |
Hi Sheila,
If you go to the Record Office Board, Kerri does look ups for South Australia, she might be able to help you with Alice' birth and parents details.
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chrisa
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29 Jan 2011 16:42 |
This is the only Alice Pendleton marriage I can see in 1890
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%) Bridge Florence Prestwich 8d 511 ??????????Gibbins William Prestwich 8d 511 >>>>>>>>>>Pendleton Alice Prestwich 8d 511 Prestwich Thomas James Prestwich 8d 511
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chrisa
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29 Jan 2011 16:30 |
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1881 England Census about James Gibbons Name: James Gibbons Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's name: John Gibbons Mother's name: Elizabeth Gibbons Gender: Male Where born: Openshaw, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Openshaw County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 837 Ashton Rd Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Cotton Brokers Clerk Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 74 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Gibbons 47 Elizabeth Gibbons 47 William H. Gibbons 19 John Gibbons 17 James Gibbons 16 Martha Jane Gibbons 11 Elizabeth Gibbons 9 Emma Gibbons 6
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chrisa
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29 Jan 2011 16:27 |
1891 England Census about James Gibbins Name: James Gibbins Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Openshaw, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: St john Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Prestwich Sub-registration district: Cheetham ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Gibbins 25 Alice Gibbins 25
Name: Alice Gibbins Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Where born: Brisbane, Austria [Australia]
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chrisa
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29 Jan 2011 16:26 |
1901 England Census about James Gibbins Name: James Gibbins Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Gibbins Gender: Male Where born: Openshaw, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Crumpsall Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Prestwich Sub-registration district: Cheetham ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age James Gibbins 35 Alice Gibbins 35 Sydney Gibbins 7 Olive Gibbins 5 Leslie Gibbins 4
Name: Alice Gibbins Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Gibbins Gender: Female Where born: Queensland, Australia
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chrisa
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29 Jan 2011 16:25 |
This birth would cover Openshaw
Births Jun 1865 (>99%) Gibbins James Chorlton 8c 576 Scan available - click to view
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chrisa
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29 Jan 2011 16:23 |
Posting for ref
GIBBINS, JAMES HEAD MARRIED M 45 COMMERCIAL TRAVELLER OPENSHAW LANCASHIRE GIBBINS, ALICE WIFE MARRIED 20 F 45 BRISBANE AUSTRALIA RESIDENT GIBBINS, SYDNEY SON SINGLE M 17 SHIPPING TRADE CRUMPSALL LANCASHIRE GIBBINS, OLIVE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 15 SCHOOL GIRL CRUMPSALL LANCASHIRE GIBBINS, LESLIE SON SINGLE M 14 SCHOOL BOY CRUMPSALL LANCASHIRE GIBBINS, DUDLEY SON SINGLE M 8 SCHOOL BOY CRUMPSALL LANCASHIRE
GIBBINS JAMES (RG14PN24198 RG78PN1388 RD467 SD1 ED28 SN110)
Address MALVERN HOUSE POLYGON ROAD CRUMPSALL MANCHESTER County Lancashire District Prestwich Subdistrict Cheetham Enumeration District 28 Parish North Manchester
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