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Stewart
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16 Jan 2011 16:12 |
George Adams born cir 1860 in West Bromwich, possibly married Mary Cox. daughter Florence Adams born cir 1882 married John Thomas Roberts in 1903 in West Bromwich. Roberts and Adams buried in South Yorkshire
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Mark
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16 Jan 2011 16:17 |
Hi Stewart.. What is it you would like to know
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AnnCardiff
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16 Jan 2011 16:51 |
George F. Adams England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1861 — West Bromwich, Stafford, England residence: West Bromwich, Stafford, England parents: Charles Adams record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: George F. Adams age: 20 gender: Male birth year: 1861 birthplace: West Bromwich, Stafford, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Unknown profession / occupation: Colliery Clerk address: 43 Carters Green census place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341683 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 2850 / 6 page number
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AnnCardiff
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16 Jan 2011 16:52 |
Florence Adams England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1873 — West Bromwich, Stafford, England residence: West Bromwich, Stafford, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Florence Adams age: 8 gender: Female birth year: 1873 birthplace: West Bromwich, Stafford, England relationship to head of household: Daur address: 7 Cape St Hucksters Shop census place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341682 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 2847 / 88 page number:
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16 Jan 2011 16:52 |
George F. Adams England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1861 — West Bromwich, Stafford, England residence: West Bromwich, Stafford, England parents: Charles Adams record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: George F. Adams age: 20 gender: Male birth year: 1861 birthplace: West Bromwich, Stafford, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Unknown profession / occupation: Colliery Clerk address: 43 Carters Green census place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341683 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 2850 / 6 page number:
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AnnCardiff
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16 Jan 2011 16:53 |
Mary Ann Cox England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1861 — Westbromwich, Stafford, England residence: West Bromwich, Stafford, England parents: William Cox record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Mary Ann Cox age: 20 gender: Female birth year: 1861 birthplace: Westbromwich, Stafford, England relationship to head of household: Daur marital condition: Unknown profession / occupation: Brick Moulder address: No 126 Pike Helve census place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341683 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 2848 / 125 page number:
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AnnCardiff
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16 Jan 2011 16:54 |
John Roberts England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: West Bromwich, Stafford, England parents: Daniel Roberts, Harriet record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: John Roberts gender: Male baptism/christening date: 27 Apr 1870 baptism/christening place: St. Peters, West Bromwich, Stafford, England father's name: Daniel Roberts mother's name: Harriet indexing project (batch) number: C16753-1 system origin: England-EASy source film number:
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AnnCardiff
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16 Jan 2011 16:57 |
John Henry Roberts England Marriages, 1538–1973 birth: 1868 parents: John Henry Roberts spouse: Florence Mary Hirons marriage: 24 Dec 1893 — West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng. record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: John Henry Roberts groom's birth date: 1868 groom's age: 25 bride's name: Florence Mary Hirons bride's birth date: 1868 bride's age: 25 marriage date: 24 Dec 1893 marriage place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng. groom's father's name: John Henry Roberts bride's father's name: Henry Hirons indexing project (batch) number: M05521-3 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1526219
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Stewart
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16 Jan 2011 21:34 |
ANN OF GREEN GABLES Thanks for that information. I feel sure that Florence would have been born 1882 or 1883 MARK From the marriage certificate I have managed to find (thought it was lost) John and Florence were married in 1903, John was 24 and Florence was 20. John's father was called John, he was deceased and last occupation was a miner, lived at Stockingford. Florences's father was called George who was an axle turner who lived at 16 Portway Road (possibly in Wednesbury or West Bromwich). There are 2 witnesses - George Adams and Amy Maria Adams. I want to find what I can about the parents of John and Florence
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Stewart
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16 Jan 2011 21:36 |
ANN Sorry I coudn't give you that information earlier but have been rooting around for the marriage certificate and have finally found it.
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Kucinta
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16 Jan 2011 21:44 |
Census 1891???:
Name: Florence Adams Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Adams Mother's name: Amy Maria Adams Gender: Female Where born: Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wednesbury Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Staffordshire Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
Household Members: Name Age >>>George Adams 31 RAILWAY AXLE TURNER c1860 Hilltop, Staffordshire, England. Amy Maria Adams 30 c1861 King Hill, Staffordshire, England. Maria Adams 10 >>>Florence Adams 8 c1883 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England. Mary Eliza Adams 5 Looks like Amy Maria Adams, witness at the wedding, was Florence's mother.
EDIT: Turns out she was Florence's sister.
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Kucinta
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16 Jan 2011 21:56 |
In 1911 Wife is down as Mary?
ADAMS, George Head Married M 52 1859 Axle Turner West Bomich Staffs ADAMS, Mary Mother Married 33 years F 52 1859 Darlaston Staffs ADAMS, William E Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Wednesbury Staffs HOLDEN, Benjamin Son In Law Married M 25 1886 Labourer Darlaston Staffs HOLDEN, Mary Daughter Married 3 years F 24 1887 Wednesbury Staffs HOLDEN, Sidney Gransdon M 2 1909 Wednesbury Staffs
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: Wednesbury Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Wednesbury Address: 2 Oakeswell Street Wednesbury County: Staffordshire
Five children born of the marriage, one deceased by census 1911.
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Kucinta
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16 Jan 2011 22:02 |
Maybe Amy Maria is the daughter ? Amy on this census 1901 is same age as daughter Maria on census 1891 I posted earlier would be:
Needless to say on actual image wife 'Gary' is Mary.
Census 1901:
Name: George Adams Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Gary Adams [Mary] Gender: Male Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wednesbury Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Wednesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Members: Name Age George Adams 41 axle turner Gary Adams 40 [Mary] Amy Adams 21 Florie Adams 18 Mary Adams 15 William Adams 9
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Kucinta
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16 Jan 2011 22:06 |
So looks like George's possible marriage with Mary Cox is probably correct; no idea why Mary turns into Amy Maria in 1891, but daughter Maria in 1891 turns into Amy in 1901, and probably into Amy Maria in time to be a witness at the wedding of sister Florence/Florrie.
Birth: Adams Amy Maria W. Bromwich 6b 850 MAR 1880.
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Kucinta
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16 Jan 2011 22:15 |
Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADAMS George W.Bromwich 6b 919 Cox Mary W. Bromwich 6b 919
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16 Jan 2011 22:17 |
George Adams in 1861?:
Name: George Adams Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: George Adams Mother's name: Maria Adams Gender: Male Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East Household Members: Name Age
George Adams 29 c1832 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England. Maria Adams 29 c1832 Madeley, Shropshire, England. William Adams 8 c1853 Bilston, Staffordshire, England. Samuel Adams 6 c1855 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England. Maryann Adams 4 c1857 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England. >>>George Adams 1 c1860 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Sarah Williams 13 servant. George senior's occupation very hard to read, could be stock taker.
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Kucinta
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16 Jan 2011 22:25 |
The family in census 1871:
Note - George has a little sister called Amy Maria here - is she the namesake for his daughter, Florence's sister?
Name: George Adams Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Mother's name: Maria Adams Gender: Male Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Wednesbury Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Wednesbury County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
Household Members: Name Age Maria Adams 37 Samuel Adams 16 faggoter. Mary Ann Adams 14 >>>George Adams 11 Lizzie Adams 7 Henry Adams 5 Amy Maria Adams 3 Thomas Harley Adams 6 Months Maria is now head of family, widowed, annuitant.
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Stewart
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17 Jan 2011 11:26 |
KUCINTA Thank you very much for all that information. Thanks everybody else for your replies. Stewart I've given up on the Roberts side of the family because there is so little information to go on and Roberts is such a common name.
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2011 13:11 |
Given the name of widowed Maria's last child in 1871
Thomas Harley Adams 6 months
Could this be Maria and George senior's marriage?
Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Adams George W Bromwich 18 744 Ancocks John W. Bromwich 18 744 Bagnall Thomas Wt Bromwich 18 744 BRADLEY Mary Ann W Bromwich 18 744 >>Harley Maria Wt Bromwich 18 744 Johnson Hannah W Bromwich 18 744 Morris John West Bromwich 18 744 Tomkys Catharine W Bromwich 18 744
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2011 13:31 |
Florence in 1911:
4 children born, all still living. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROBERTS, John Thomas Head Married 8 years M 33 1878 Coal Miner Getter Dudley Worcestershire ROBERTS, Florence Wife Married F 28 1883 Wednesbury Staffordshire ROBERTS, Florence Daughter F 6 1905 Warks Stockingford ROBERTS, William Edward Son M 5 1906 Warks Stockingford ROBERTS, George Henry Son M 3 1908 Warks Stockingford ROBERTS, Eliza Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Warks Stockingford CARTRIGHT, Lizzie Boarder Single F 28 1883 Brick Yard Presser Warks Stockingford
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address: 27 Haunchwood Road Nuneaton County: Warwickshire
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