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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 14:21 |
Hi All,
I can't find James Street 1852 born Essex on the 1901 census.
I can only find him on the 1881 and 1891 where he is a widower. I have looked for his children on the 1901 too without any luck.
I wonder if a fresh pair of younger eyes could help please?
For ref the 1891 census where his last child was Genta who seems to be registered as Genty. His wife Lydia died in 1890.
1891 England Census about James A Street Name: James A Street Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Loughton, Essex, England Civil Parish: Loughton Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Loughton County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:Epping New Rd.
Occupation: General Labourer. Registration district: Epping Sub-registration district: Chigwell ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James A Street 39 Alice Street 17 James Street 15 Rachel E Street 13 Louisa Street 9 Leonard Street 5 Pheobe Street 3 Genta Street 1 I have his marriage to Lydia but not the cert.
Thanks for your time Mel
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2011 14:29 |
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HIGGINS, George Head Married M 31 1870 Carman Loughton Essex VIEW HIGGINS, Alice Wife Married F 26 1875 Plaistow Essex VIEW HIGGINS, Mary H Daughter Single F 8 1893 Loughton Essex VIEW HIGGINS, James H Son Single M 6 1895 Loughton Essex VIEW HIGGINS, Geo Wm Son Single M 4 1897 Loughton Essex VIEW HIGGINS, Robert Son Single M 0 (8 MOS) 1901 Loughton Essex VIEW STREET, James Father-In-Law Widower M 51 1850 Chimney Sweeper Loughton Essex VIEW STREET, Lousie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Laundress Loughton Essex VIEW STREET, Leonard Son Single M 15 1886 Erand Boy Loughton Essex VIEW STREET, Phoebe Daughter Single F 13 1888 Loughton Essex VIEW STREET, Emly Daughter Single F 11 1890 Loughton Essex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 1639 Folio: 34 Page: 20 Registration District: Epping Sub District: Chigwell Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns Civil Parish: Loughton Municipal Borough: Address: Goldings Hill Lower Road, Loughton County: Essex
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AnnCardiff
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7 Jan 2011 14:32 |
birth: 1852 — Loughton, Essex, England residence: Loughton, Essex, England spouse: Lydia Street record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: James Street age: 29 gender: Male birth year: 1852 birthplace: Loughton, Essex, England relationship to head of household: Head marital condition: Married profession / occupation: General Laborer address: Woodberry Hill census place: Loughton, Essex, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341418 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 1735 / 17 page number:
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2011 14:33 |
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HIGGINS, George Head Married M 41 1870 Labourer Farm Loughton VIEW HIGGINS, Alice Wife Married 18 years F 35 1876 House Wife Loughton VIEW HIGGINS, James Son Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Loughton VIEW HIGGINS, George Son M 14 1897 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW HIGGINS, Robert Son M 9 1902 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW HIGGINS, Lenonard Son M 7 1904 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW HIGGINS, Louie F 3 1908 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW >>>>>STREET, James Lodger Widower M 54 1857 Chimney Sweep Loughton VIEW STREET, Louie Lodger Single F 26 1885 Laundry Maid Loughton VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 9776 Reference: RG14PN9776 RG78PN515 RD189 SD1 ED13 SN77 Registration District: Epping Sub District: Chigwell Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Loughton Address: Lower Road Golding Hill Loughton County: Essex
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 14:35 |
Oh Choccy that sounds like them. The only thing is............I thought Alice his daughter married John Sadler 1871.
I shall have to have another look.
Thanks Choccy.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 14:39 |
Thanks AOGG thats the only other census I could find him on with wife Lydia Biertely.
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Christina
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7 Jan 2011 14:45 |
Name: Alice Street Year of Registration: 1892 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: West Ham County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 4a p 151 George Higgins is on same page
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 14:46 |
Choccy I still can't find them on Ancestry on the 1901 and I have looked up James 1850 and George Higgins 1870.
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2011 14:47 |
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Marriages Sep 1892
Higgins George W. Ham 4a 151 Merrett Arthur George W. Ham 4a 151 Street Alice West Ham 4a 151 Wheeler Agnes Mary W. Ham 4a 151
but I see what you mean -
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SADLER, John Head Married M 30 1871 Coachman Not Domestic Messing Essex VIEW SADLER, Alice Wife Married F 25 1876 Loughton VIEW SADLER, Fredk Son M 6 1895 Loughton Essex VIEW SADLER, Ellen Daughter F 5 1896 Loughton Essex VIEW SADLER, George Son M 3 1898 Loughton Essex VIEW SADLER, Voilet Daughter F 1 1900 Loughton Essex VIEW SADLER, Florence J Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1901 Loughton Essex VIEW SADLER, Charles Brother Single M 37 1864 Cabman Messing Essex VIEW SADLER, Arthur Brother Single M 35 1866 Potman Messing Essex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 1639 Folio: 43 Page: 7 Registration District: Epping Sub District: Chigwell Enumeration District: 12 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary's Civil Parish: Loughton Municipal Borough: Address: Smarts Lane, Loughton, Village County: Essex
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2011 14:48 |
I'm using FMP
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2011 14:50 |
think you will have to get one of the marriage certificates to confirm which one Alice married - there were obviously two Alice Streets
The 1901 census I posted with James Street as 'father-in-law' has same children with him as in 1891.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 14:59 |
Just typed loads and lost the lot.
This is the marriage I found for my John Sadler 1871.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about John Sadler Name: John Sadler Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Epping County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 442
Charles Francis Bartlett 1893 Epping Essex Alice Maud Looker 1893 Epping Essex Alice Maude Looker 1893 Epping Essex John Sadler 1893 Epping Essex Alice Street 1893 Epping Essex
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MillymollyAmanda
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7 Jan 2011 14:59 |
1861?
Name: James Street Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Street Mother's name: Rachael Street Gender: Male Where born: Loughton, Essex, England Civil Parish: Loughton County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Epping Sub-registration district: Chigwell ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Street 45 Rachael Street 47 Lucy Street 26 George Street 25 Jane Street 20 Thomas Street 16 William Street 14 Charles Street 12 James Street 9 View Original Record
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Christina
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7 Jan 2011 15:05 |
Mel on Ancestry for 1901 you will find them under HEGGINS and STOUT all mistranscribed!!
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 15:06 |
Choccy that is my family with John Sadler.
Have just found another Alice Beatrice Street 1875 Loughton Essex, I wonder if it was her he married????
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 15:08 |
Oh thanks Christine you are a treasure. I will look now.
Hello Mandy thanks for popping in!! and thats the line I was following but now I am questioning it.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 15:12 |
Found them at last and just look at the last name which must be Genty.!!!!!!
Gusty Stout!!!!! gosh did I laugh.
1901 England Census about George Heggins Name: George Heggins Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Heggins Gender: Male Where born: Sx, Loughton Civil Parish: Loughton Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Loughton County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Epping Sub-registration district: Chigwell ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age George Heggins 31 Alice Heggins 26 Mary H Heggins 8 James H Heggins 6 Geo Wm Heggins 4 Robert Heggins 8 Months James Stout 51 Louise Stout 17 Leonard Stout 15 Phoebe Stout 13 Gusty Stout 11 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1639; Folio: 34; Page: 20.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 15:14 |
Funny this as it says that Georges Wife Alice was born in Plaistow??????
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2011 15:23 |
I wonder if they were just lodgers or some kind of rellies.
It is really a mystery this one.
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2011 15:25 |
If that is definitely your family with John Sadler, you need to get their marriage certificate (if you don't already have it) to find out Alice's father's name and occupation.
It looks as though James Street born 1850 is probably not your line, if his daughter Alice married George Higgins.
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