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Hello,I'm trying to find out anything at all about my Grandfathers' family. His named was William (Bill) Winters and he was born in Tyne and Wear. (Gateshead ? ) in July 1903. He had at least two sisters called Sally and Gwen and at least one brother who i think may have been called George. Gwen married a Dutch man and lived in Holland and l think Sally moved to the London area. My Grandfather was in the Army and was stationed in Glasgow in the late 1920's where he met and married my Granny Margaret Ann ( Meg )Tasker.
He never moved back to England and stayed in Glasgow for the rest of his life. Any info will be greatly appreciated,
Thanks in advance
Regards Linda McF.

A possible in 1911 with his grandparents?

WINTERS, Thomas Head Married M 51 1860 Machinist Merthyr Tidvyl Wales
WINTERS, Jane Ann Wife Married 31 years F 50 1861 Newcastle on Tyne
WINTERS, Robert Miller Son Single M 21 1890 Labourer Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, Jane Ann Daughter Single F 15 1896 Feeder Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, Beatrice Daughter F 14 1897 Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, Thomas Son M 11 1900 Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, John Son M 9 1902 Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, James Miller Son M 7 1904 Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, Norman Son M 4 1907 Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, George Son M 2 1909 Gateshead on Tyne
WINTERS, Edward Albert Son M 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Gateshead on Tyne
>> WINTERS, William Grandson M 7 1904 Gateshead on Tyne

RG number: RG14 Piece: 30478
Reference: RG14PN30478 RG78PN1748B RD557 SD2 ED68 SN69

Registration District: Gateshead Sub District: Gateshead Enumeration District: 68 Parish: Gateshead

Address: 134 Westbourne Avenue Gateshead
County: Durham

**Edit - given the ages of his grandparents, it's possible some of the other are grandchildren too.

Where did you see his birth of 1903 ?

Only one I can see is 1904
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Births Sep 1904
WINTERS William - Gateshead 10a 1019

Marieceleste,
Thanks for that but I looked at that census already, I know that he was definately born in July 1903.

Linda - if you know he was definitely born July 1903, what were his parent's names on the birth certificate?

There is no record of a birth in that name in 1903 that I can find.

You need to bear in mind that years of birth on a census can be about 1 year out. The census was taken before his 8th birthday in 1911 so when his age was given as 7 the enumerator would have taken 7 from 1911 and assumed a birth year of 1904.

Possible ????

Births Sep 1903 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WINTERS Agnes Jane - Gateshead 10a 1052

If you buy that b.cert from the GRO, these are their ref #s that you will quote - order via:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

I think you ought to buy some credits on ScotlandsPeople - you can buy the m.cert there - it's actually much cheaper to just buy the uncertified image of the register page. Scottish m.certs normally give both parents of bride and groom, including the mums' MSs=maiden surnames. Unfortunately, for births within the kast 100 y, you can't buy the cheaper images - you have to buy certified birth extracts at 10 GBP (I think).

Looks like Agnes

1911 census - household transcription
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CONNELL, James Head Married
4 years M 29 1882 Filler Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland VIEW
CONNELL, Alice Miller Wife Married F 25 1886 Gateshead on Tyne Durham VIEW
CONNELL, James Son M 3 1908 Gateshead on Tyne Durham VIEW
WINTERS, Agnes Jane Niece F 8 1903 Gateshead on Tyne Durham VIEW

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Registration District:
Gateshead Sub District:
Gateshead Enumeration District:
67 Parish:
Gateshead

Address:
137 Westbourne Avenue Gateshead County:
Durham

Aunt Alice

1901

Name: Alice M Winter
[Alice M Winters]
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Winter
Mother's name: Jane A Winter
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England



Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 68
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 318
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Winter 38
Jane A Winter 37
Mary A Winter 20
William Winter 18
Agnes J Winter 16
Alice M Winter 15
Margaret E Winter 12
Robert M Winter 10
Eliza Winter 9
Annie Winter 7
Jane A M Winter 4
Beatrice Winter 3
Thomas Winter 1

Thanks everyone for all your help and advice,
Kind Regards
Linda

Had a look at his marriage certificate on SP. (had 6 credits left)

Married 5th June 1930 at 21 Hope Street Glasgow.

William Winters was aged 25, Pte 2nd. Batt. The Cameronians. Address Maryhill Barracks. f. William Winters, Engine fitter, m. Agnes Sarah Winters ms Ware.

Margaret Ann Bruce Murray Tasker, aged 21, a Fish Restaurateur's Assistant. Address 21 Duncruin Street, Glasgow. f. William Keith Tasker, Motor Lorry Driver, m. Jane Valentine Tasker ms Falconer.


None of the parents are noted as deceased.

That could then be a possible for his father William on the 1901 census that Jax has posted? Hard to read his occupation on that one but looks like some sort of painter? Definately not an engine fitter!

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Fibbens Mary Ann Gateshead 10a 1499
Newton William Gateshead 10a 1499
Ware Sarah Gateshead 10a 1499 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Winters William Gateshead 10a 1499 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Winters Gwendoline Ware Middlesbro 9d 1029

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Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
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Winters Sarah Ware Gateshead 10a 1704

You need to buy the marriage certificate for William and Sarah to get their father's names to confirm this possibility for Sarah.

Name: Sarah Ware
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George H Ware
Mother's name: Jane Ware
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Venerable Bede
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 202
Household Members: Name Age
George H Ware 47
Jane Ware 46
Ralph Ware 19
Sarah Ware 17
Thomas A Ware 14
Sidney Ware 7
Julia Ware 12
John Humphrey 26
Minnie Humphrey 23
Minnie Humphrey 2
John Humphrey 7 Months


From the details that are on your grandparents marriage ceertificate that 1904 birth certainly looks like your grandfather. You should buy that certificate too and compare the parents details with those that William has given on his marriage certificate in Glasgow.

???
1911 census - household transcription
Person: WINTERS, William
Institution: His Majesty's Prison, DURHAM UNION WORKHOUSE

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WINTERS, William Prisoner Married M 28 1883 Iron Turner Durham Gateshead VIEW

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: WINTERS, Sarah
Address: 64 Camperdown Street Gateshead

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WARE, Thomas Alexander Head Married M 24 1887 House Painter Durham City VIEW
WARE, Sarah Annie Wife Married
6 years F 24 1887 Chester Le Street Durham VIEW
WARE, Thomas Alexander Son Single M 6 1905 Newcastle City VIEW
WARE, Julia Daughter Single F 2 1909 Durham Gateshead VIEW
WINTERS, Sarah Sister Married
7 years F 26 1885 Durham City VIEW
WINTERS, Thomas Nephew Single M 4 1907 Durham Gateshead VIEW
WINTERS, Sidney Nephew Single M 2 1909 Durham Gateshead VIEW

Says she has 4 children so this looks very likely these two plus William and Agnes

It may also be worth considering these ones from the 1911 census as being grandsons rather than sons as MarieCeleste

Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
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Winters Norman Gateshead 10a 1065

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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Winters George Gateshead 10a 973

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Births Dec 1910 (>99%)
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WINTERS Edward A Gateshead 10a 977

I think those children are Thomas and Jane's as they has 16 children still living on the 1911 out of 18 born to them


11 children on 1901 census plus another 5 on 1911

jax

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Miller Jane Ann Gateshead 10a 907
Winters Thomas Gateshead 10a 907

The amount of information you people have given me is amazing, thank you very much, Linda

Hi Linda
I was just looking on Genesreunited and saw your question about your grandad and my mum is you grandads sister, Sarah and Gwen is her sister and my auntie who married a dutch.man! Your right my mum did move to London - my grandad William came down here to look for work.
I would love to catch-up with you!
Contact me if you would like too! :-)