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24 Feb 2015 17:50 |
thank you for all the info cheers
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24 Feb 2015 15:25 |
The family in the 1881 census??? ( with mistranscribed surname perhaps)
John H Curssond England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: John H Curssond Age (Original): 32 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1849 Birthplace: Gwennap, Cornwall, Wales Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coal Miner Address: 21 Brithweunydd Rd Event Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorganshire, Wales Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5306 / 89 Page Number: 37 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace John H Curssond Head M 32 Gwennap, Cornwall, Wales Harriet Curssond Wife F 28 Trepston Or Tresston, Gloucestershire, Wales John H Curssond Son M 6 Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, Wales William Curssond Son M 5 Taplon, Gloucestershire, Wales Harriet Curssond Daughter F 2 Wigan, Lancashire, Wales Albert Curssond Son M 1 Wigan, Lancashire, Wales GS Film number: 1342277
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24 Feb 2015 14:50 |
Parents' marriage, maybe???
John Henry Curnow England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index Name: John Henry Curnow Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1873 Registration District: Bristol County: Gloucestershire Event Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Volume: 6A Page: 113 Line Number: 250 John Henry Curnow probably married one of the following people Name: Harriet Ayre Name: Harriet Belcher Name: William George Webber
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24 Feb 2015 14:49 |
Family christening en masse - perhaps when they were about to leave for Wales: (From FS)
England, Bristol Parish Registers
Name: John Henry Curnow Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 May 1882 Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father's Name: John Henry Curnow Mother's Name: Harriet Digital Folder Number: 004255545 , Image Number: 00145
Name: William Curnow Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 May 1882 Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father's Name: John Henry Curnow Mother's Name: Harriet
Name: Harriet Curnow Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 May 1882 Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father's Name: John Henry Curnow Mother's Name: Harriet
Name: Albert Curnow Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 May 1882 Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father's Name: John Henry Curnow Mother's Name: Harriet
Name: Mary Ann Curnow Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 May 1882 Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father's Name: John Henry Curnow Mother's Name: Harriet
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24 Feb 2015 14:31 |
This will be his mother and her children in 1901.
Harriet Curnow
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Harriet Curnow Age in 1901: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Pontypridd Ecclesiastical parish: Eglwysilan Town: Cilfynydd County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Pontypridd Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 4997 Folio: 143 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Harriet Curnow 47 Harriet Curnow 22 - Wigan Albert Curnow 21 - wigan Herbert Curnow 17 - Bristol Mary Curnow 14 - Bristol George Curnow 12 - Bristol Eliz J Curnow 10 - Glamorgan Frederick Curnow 5 - Glamprgan Thos E Curnow 4 - Glamorgan Harry Blake 21 - cousin, born Bristol
And here's the family mistranscribed in 1891:
Elizabeth J Carmer
in the 1891 Wales Census Name: Elizabeth J Carmer Age: 10/12 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John H Carmer Mother's name: Harriet Carmer Gender: Female Where born: Ynysybul, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Llanwonno Town: Ynysybwl County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Pontypridd Sub registration district: Llanwonno ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4414 Folio: 115 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age John H Carmer 42 Harriet Carmer 38 Aaaron H Carmer 16 William Carmer 15 Harriet Carmer 12 Albert Carmer 11 Herbert Carmer 6 Mary Carmer 4 George Carmer 3 Elizabeth J Carmer 10/12
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ArgyllGran
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24 Feb 2015 14:20 |
As his wife Margaret was visiting her son in 1911 (above), and listed as married, perhaps this could be John Henry, with his mother and siblings. Listed as married, and a coal miner:
John Henry Curnow in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: John Henry Curnow Age in 1911: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Pontypridd County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: 53 Ann St Cilfynydd Pontypridd Marital Status: Married Years Married: 10 Estimated Marriage Year: 1901 Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer Registration district: Pontypridd Registration District Number: 589 Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Household schedule number: 200 Piece: 32217 Household Members: Name Age Mrs Curnow 57 John Henry Curnow 36 William Curnow 34 George Curnow 22 Fred Curnow 15 Thomas Curnow 14 Elizabeth Jane Curnow 20 Harriet Salmon 32 - married daughter
All born Gloucestershire, except Elizabeth, born Glamorgan. Beside Mrs Curnow's name, it says "husband away".
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ArgyllGran
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24 Feb 2015 14:07 |
I've found this thread via your new thread about John Henry Curnow: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349801
Best to keep all the information together, to avoid duplication of research.
Re your last post about Margaret on this thread - You're not going to find anything about her between 1911 and her death, until the 1921 census is made public. As she didn't remarry or have any more children after 1911, there's no reason for her to show up on records - unless she did something worth reporting in a newspaper!
Re John Henry Curnow, as per your new thread:
1901 census is posted above. .
Maybe this is him, although YOB a bit out? Clifton is very near Winterbourne:
John Henry Curnow England and Wales, Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008 birth registration: 1874 Clifton, Gloucestershire, England
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Roger
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1 Aug 2010 17:36 |
hi jonesey yes i think thats her but i have no info on her between 1911 and then
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Jonesey
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1 Aug 2010 16:34 |
Any chance this is her?
Name: Margaret Curnow Death Registration Month/Year: 1936 Age at death (estimated): 80 Registration district: Cannock Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 483
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Roger
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1 Aug 2010 16:34 |
she was born in priors lee salop
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Choccy
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1 Aug 2010 16:27 |
Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plumb William Penkridge 6b 587 Titley Margaret Penkridge 6b 587
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1 Aug 2010 16:22 |
1881 census Name Margaret Plumb Age 25 Estimated Year of Birth 1856 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Address Mill Street District Cannock, Cannock Parish Cannock Administrative County Staffordshire Birth Place Priors Lee Birth County Shropshire in house william head 30 margaret wife 25 henry taylor boarder 22 RG 11 / 2783
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1 Aug 2010 16:20 |
1861: Name: Margaret Tittley Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Shiffnall, Shropshire, England Civil parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age James Tittley 28 Mary Tittley 25 Jane Tittley 6 Margaret Tittley 4 Sarah Tittley 3 Joseph Tittley 11 Mo
1871: Name: Margaret Tittley Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Shifnal, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Shiffnal Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Snedshill County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Registration district: Shiffnal Sub-registration district: Shiffnal ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 372 Household Members: Name Age James Tittley 38 Mary Tittley 35 Margaret Tittley 14 Naomi Tittley 8 Mary Tittley 6 Mary Tittley 70
N.B. Priors Lee is adjacent to Shifnal
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1 Aug 2010 16:17 |
1911 census Household information Address 16a Castle View Dudley Parish Dudley Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 3 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN17423 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED1 SN275 Administrative County Staffordshire Registration District Dudley Registration Sub District Dudley Enumeration District 1 Householder 1 Name William James Plumb Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married Married Gender M Age 30 Estimated Year of Birth 1881 Occupation Wireman Employed Y Working at Home N Industry National Telephone Co Place of Birth Staffordshire Cannock Nationality British Sub By Parentage Householder 2 Name Sarah Ann Plumb Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 7 Years Total Children Born Alive 3 Children Still Living 3 Children Who Have Died 0 Gender F Age 27 Estimated Year of Birth 1884 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Yorkshire Leeds Nationality British Sub By Parentage Householder 3 Name Maggie Plumb Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1905 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Staffordshire West Bromwich Householder 4 Name Annie Plumb Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 4 Estimated Year of Birth 1907 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Staffordshire West Bromwich Householder 5 Name William Charles John Plumb Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 1 Estimated Year of Birth 1910 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Worcestershire Dudley Householder 6 Name Margaret Curnow Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Condition / Years Married Married Gender F Age 56 Estimated Year of Birth 1855 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Shropshire Prives Lee Nationality Brit Sub By Parentage
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1 Aug 2010 16:17 |
the last i know of her 1911 census she was down as a visitor at her son williams house in dudley
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1 Aug 2010 16:16 |
shot in the dark - 1881
William PLUMB Head M Male 30 Stowe, Gloucester, England General Labourer Margaret PLUMB Wife M Female 25 Priors Lee, Shropshire, England Henry TAYLOR Boarder U Male 22 Shropshire, England Coal Miner
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Mill Street Census Place Cannock, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341666 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2783 / 23 Page Number 38
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1 Aug 2010 16:16 |
1891
PLUMB, William Head Married M 40 1851 Railway Carter Longborough Gloucestershire VIEW PLUMB, Margeret Wife Married F 34 1857 Sudashill Shropshire VIEW PLUMB, William J Son M 9 1882 Scholar Cannock Staffordshire VIEW PLUMB, Margeret Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Cannock Staffordshire VIEW PLUMB, Sarah J Daughter F 1 1890 Cannock Staffordshire VIEW PLUMB, Alfred J Son M 0 (3M) 1891 Cannock Staffordshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 2219 Folio: 27 Page: 11 Registration District: Cannock Sub District: Cannock Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Lukes Civil Parish: Cannock Municipal Borough: Cannock Address: Mill Street, Cannock County: Staffordshire
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1 Aug 2010 16:15 |
1911 PLUMB, William James Head Married M 30 1881 Wireman Staffordshire Cannock VIEW PLUMB, Sarah Ann Wife Married 7 years F 27 1884 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW PLUMB, Maggie Daughter F 6 1905 Staffordshire West Bromwich VIEW PLUMB, Annie Daughter F 4 1907 Staffordshire West Bromwich VIEW PLUMB, William Charles John Son M 1 1910 Worcestershire Dudley VIEW CURNOW, Margaret Visitor Married F 56 1855 Shropshire Prives Lee VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 17423 Reference: RG14PN17423 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED1 SN275 Registration District: Dudley Sub District: Dudley Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Dudley Address: 16a Castle View Dudley
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1 Aug 2010 16:14 |
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CURNOW, John Henry Head Married M 31 1870 Carter Haulier Winterborn Gloucestershire VIEW CURNOW, Margaret Wife Married F 43 1858 Tobacconist & General Dealer Priors Lee Salop VIEW PLUMB, William J Step Son Single M 19 1882 Gas Fitter (House) Cannock Staffordshire VIEW PLUMB, Margaret Step Daughter Single F 15 1886 House (Home) Assistant Cannock Staffordshire VIEW PLUMB, Sarah J Step Daughter Single F 11 1890 Cannock Staffordshire VIEW PLUMB, Alfred John Step Son Single M 10 1891 Cannock Staffordshire VIEW SHELLEY, William Servant Single M 14 1887 Carm Carter (Haulier) Cannock Staffordshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 2662 Folio: 37 Page: 27 Registration District: Cannock Sub District: Cannock Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Lukes Civil Parish: Cannock Municipal Borough: Address: Mill Street, Cannock County: Staffordshire
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1 Aug 2010 16:13 |
1901: Name: Margaret Curnow Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Henry Gender: Female Where born: Priors Lee, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Cannock Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Cannock County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Cannock Sub-registration district: Cannock ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 181 Household Members: Name Age John Henry Curnow 31 Margaret Curnow 43 William J Plumb 19 Margaret Plumb 15 Sarah J Plumb 11 Alfred John Plumb 10 William Shelley 14
Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%) Plumb William Penkridge 6b 587 Titley Margaret Penkridge 6b 587
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