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margaret curnow 1857

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Roger

Roger Report 1 Aug 2010 16:10

i a trying to find info on my g.granmother margaret curnow 1857 when my g,grandad william plumb died 1896 she remarried in 1898 to john henry curnow i know no more than that regards roger

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Aug 2010 16:13

any location?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 1 Aug 2010 16:13

1901:
Name: Margaret Curnow
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Priors Lee, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Cannock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Cannock
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Cannock
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 181
Household Members:
Name Age
John Henry Curnow 31
Margaret Curnow 43
William J Plumb 19
Margaret Plumb 15
Sarah J Plumb 11
Alfred John Plumb 10
William Shelley 14

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
Plumb William Penkridge 6b 587
Titley Margaret Penkridge 6b 587

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Aug 2010 16:14



1901

CURNOW, John Henry Head Married M 31 1870 Carter Haulier
Winterborn
Gloucestershire VIEW
CURNOW, Margaret Wife Married F 43 1858 Tobacconist & General Dealer
Priors Lee
Salop VIEW
PLUMB, William J Step Son Single M 19 1882 Gas Fitter (House)
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
PLUMB, Margaret Step Daughter Single F 15 1886 House (Home) Assistant
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
PLUMB, Sarah J Step Daughter Single F 11 1890
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
PLUMB, Alfred John Step Son Single M 10 1891
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
SHELLEY, William Servant Single M 14 1887 Carm Carter (Haulier)
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2662 Folio:
37 Page:
27

Registration District:
Cannock Sub District:
Cannock Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Lukes

Civil Parish:
Cannock Municipal Borough:
Address:
Mill Street, Cannock County:
Staffordshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Aug 2010 16:15

1911
PLUMB, William James Head Married M 30 1881 Wireman Staffordshire Cannock VIEW
PLUMB, Sarah Ann Wife Married
7 years F 27 1884 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
PLUMB, Maggie Daughter F 6 1905 Staffordshire West Bromwich VIEW
PLUMB, Annie Daughter F 4 1907 Staffordshire West Bromwich VIEW
PLUMB, William Charles John Son M 1 1910 Worcestershire Dudley VIEW
CURNOW, Margaret Visitor Married F 56 1855 Shropshire Prives Lee VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17423 Reference:
RG14PN17423 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED1 SN275

Registration District:
Dudley Sub District:
Dudley Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Dudley

Address:
16a Castle View Dudley

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Aug 2010 16:16


1891

PLUMB, William Head Married M 40 1851 Railway Carter
Longborough
Gloucestershire VIEW
PLUMB, Margeret Wife Married F 34 1857
Sudashill
Shropshire VIEW
PLUMB, William J Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
PLUMB, Margeret Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
PLUMB, Sarah J Daughter F 1 1890
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW
PLUMB, Alfred J Son M 0 (3M) 1891
Cannock
Staffordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2219 Folio:
27 Page:
11

Registration District:
Cannock Sub District:
Cannock Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Lukes

Civil Parish:
Cannock Municipal Borough:
Cannock Address:
Mill Street, Cannock County:
Staffordshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Aug 2010 16:16

shot in the dark - 1881

William PLUMB Head M Male 30 Stowe, Gloucester, England General Labourer
Margaret PLUMB Wife M Female 25 Priors Lee, Shropshire, England
Henry TAYLOR Boarder U Male 22 Shropshire, England Coal Miner


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Source Information:
Dwelling Mill Street
Census Place Cannock, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341666
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2783 / 23
Page Number 38

Roger

Roger Report 1 Aug 2010 16:17

the last i know of her 1911 census she was down as a visitor at her son williams house in dudley

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 1 Aug 2010 16:17

1911 census

Household information
Address 16a Castle View Dudley
Parish Dudley
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 3
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN17423 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED1 SN275
Administrative County Staffordshire
Registration District Dudley
Registration Sub District Dudley
Enumeration District 1
Householder 1
Name William James Plumb
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Occupation Wireman
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry National Telephone Co
Place of Birth Staffordshire Cannock
Nationality British Sub By Parentage
Householder 2
Name Sarah Ann Plumb
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 7 Years
Total Children Born Alive 3
Children Still Living 3
Children Who Have Died 0
Gender F
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Yorkshire Leeds
Nationality British Sub By Parentage
Householder 3
Name Maggie Plumb
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Staffordshire West Bromwich
Householder 4
Name Annie Plumb
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1907
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Staffordshire West Bromwich
Householder 5
Name William Charles John Plumb
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1910
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Worcestershire Dudley
Householder 6
Name Margaret Curnow
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender F
Age 56
Estimated Year of Birth 1855
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Shropshire Prives Lee
Nationality Brit Sub By Parentage

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 1 Aug 2010 16:20

1861:
Name: Margaret Tittley
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Shiffnall, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
James Tittley 28
Mary Tittley 25
Jane Tittley 6
Margaret Tittley 4
Sarah Tittley 3
Joseph Tittley 11 Mo

1871:
Name: Margaret Tittley
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Shiffnal
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Snedshill
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Shiffnal
Sub-registration district: Shiffnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 372
Household Members:
Name Age
James Tittley 38
Mary Tittley 35
Margaret Tittley 14
Naomi Tittley 8
Mary Tittley 6
Mary Tittley 70

N.B. Priors Lee is adjacent to Shifnal

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 1 Aug 2010 16:22

1881 census

Name Margaret Plumb
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address Mill Street
District Cannock, Cannock
Parish Cannock
Administrative County Staffordshire
Birth Place Priors Lee
Birth County Shropshire
in house
william head 30
margaret wife 25
henry taylor boarder 22
RG 11 / 2783

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Aug 2010 16:27



Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Plumb William Penkridge 6b 587
Titley Margaret Penkridge 6b 587


Roger

Roger Report 1 Aug 2010 16:34

she was born in priors lee salop

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 1 Aug 2010 16:34

Any chance this is her?

Name: Margaret Curnow
Death Registration Month/Year: 1936
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Cannock
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 483

Roger

Roger Report 1 Aug 2010 17:36

hi jonesey yes i think thats her but i have no info on her between 1911 and then

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2015 14:07

I've found this thread via your new thread about John Henry Curnow:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349801

Best to keep all the information together, to avoid duplication of research.

Re your last post about Margaret on this thread -
You're not going to find anything about her between 1911 and her death, until the 1921 census is made public. As she didn't remarry or have any more children after 1911, there's no reason for her to show up on records - unless she did something worth reporting in a newspaper!

Re John Henry Curnow, as per your new thread:

1901 census is posted above. .

Maybe this is him, although YOB a bit out? Clifton is very near Winterbourne:

John Henry Curnow
England and Wales, Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:
1874
Clifton, Gloucestershire, England



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2015 14:20

As his wife Margaret was visiting her son in 1911 (above), and listed as married, perhaps this could be John Henry, with his mother and siblings. Listed as married, and a coal miner:

John Henry Curnow
in the 1911 Wales Census

Name: John Henry Curnow
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 53 Ann St Cilfynydd Pontypridd
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 32217
Household Members:
Name Age
Mrs Curnow 57
John Henry Curnow 36
William Curnow 34
George Curnow 22
Fred Curnow 15
Thomas Curnow 14
Elizabeth Jane Curnow 20
Harriet Salmon 32 - married daughter

All born Gloucestershire, except Elizabeth, born Glamorgan.
Beside Mrs Curnow's name, it says "husband away".



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2015 14:31

This will be his mother and her children in 1901.

Harriet Curnow

in the 1901 Wales Census

Name: Harriet Curnow
Age in 1901: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
Ecclesiastical parish: Eglwysilan
Town: Cilfynydd
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 4997
Folio: 143
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Curnow 47
Harriet Curnow 22 - Wigan
Albert Curnow 21 - wigan
Herbert Curnow 17 - Bristol
Mary Curnow 14 - Bristol
George Curnow 12 - Bristol
Eliz J Curnow 10 - Glamorgan
Frederick Curnow 5 - Glamprgan
Thos E Curnow 4 - Glamorgan
Harry Blake 21 - cousin, born Bristol


And here's the family mistranscribed in 1891:

Elizabeth J Carmer

in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: Elizabeth J Carmer
Age: 10/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John H Carmer
Mother's name: Harriet Carmer
Gender: Female
Where born: Ynysybul, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanwonno
Town: Ynysybwl
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Llanwonno
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4414
Folio: 115
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John H Carmer 42
Harriet Carmer 38
Aaaron H Carmer 16
William Carmer 15
Harriet Carmer 12
Albert Carmer 11
Herbert Carmer 6
Mary Carmer 4
George Carmer 3
Elizabeth J Carmer 10/12



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2015 14:49

Family christening en masse - perhaps when they were about to leave for Wales:
(From FS)

England, Bristol Parish Registers

Name: John Henry Curnow
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 04 May 1882
Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: John Henry Curnow
Mother's Name: Harriet
Digital Folder Number: 004255545 , Image Number: 00145


Name: William Curnow
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 04 May 1882
Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: John Henry Curnow
Mother's Name: Harriet



Name: Harriet Curnow
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 04 May 1882
Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: John Henry Curnow
Mother's Name: Harriet


Name: Albert Curnow
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 04 May 1882
Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: John Henry Curnow
Mother's Name: Harriet


Name: Mary Ann Curnow
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 04 May 1882
Event Place: Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: John Henry Curnow
Mother's Name: Harriet

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2015 14:50

Parents' marriage, maybe???


John Henry Curnow
England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index
Name: John Henry Curnow
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1873
Registration District: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Event Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Volume: 6A
Page: 113
Line Number: 250

John Henry Curnow probably married one of the following people
Name: Harriet Ayre
Name: Harriet Belcher
Name: William George Webber