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I am looking for a birth and if possible a marraige of Charles Knuckey, according to the 1911 canadian census he is living in Toronto age 30 so d.o.b.1881, with Jenny Knuckey d.o.b.1883, I am presuming this is his wife.I have no idea where he was born , I do know his name is mentioned on poor relief records in Glasgow as being married to Janet Moore, but cannot find that marraige, she was married to Allan Stevenson.
Janet Moore was also born in 1883 , so I am wondering if Janet and Jenny are one and the same.
Any help in finding a birth or a marraige to Charles Knuckey would be great,

Thanks
jean
The last time I have Janet is on the 1901 census in Glasgow living with her mother and siblings even though she was married to Allan Stevenson at that time, she is under her married name, and Allan is living with his grandmother, he died in 1922. No record of Janet's death on Scotlands People.

1911 Census of Canada
about Charles Knuckey
Name: Charles Knuckey
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 30
Birth Date: Jun 1880
Birthplace: England
Family Number: 10
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Jenny
Immigration Year: 1903
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Toronto South
District Number: 127
Sub-District: Ward four
Sub-District Number: 45
Place of Habitation: 152 John St
Census Year: 1911
Page: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Knuckey 30
Jenny Knuckey 28 scotland
Hugh Elder 29
James Wood 40
Edward Foster 23
Mary Arnheim 29
Joseph Bradford 25
Georger Dawyer 35
Margaret Good 14
George Good 38
Margaret Good 37

richard

Thank you very much Artbeat, I see he was married in England , and Jenny is scottish, Just can't seem to find a marraige in Scotland for them, trying to work out if Jenny is Janet, it's a mystery, can't find anything on either of them in cotland.

jean

Sorry that should be born in England

this is the only one near to his birth that i can find

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Annie KNUCKEY Head M Female 38 Folkstone, Kent, England Auctioneer Clerks Wife
George KNUCKEY Son Male 14 Perranarworthal, Cornwall, England Scholar
Thomas KNUCKEY Son Male 12 Perranarworthal, Cornwall, England Scholar
Mary KNUCKEY Daur Female 9 Perranarworthal, Cornwall, England Scholar
Charles KNUCKEY Son Male 4 Plymouth, Devon, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Institution "Bakers Shop" No 17 Flora St
Census Place Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341529
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2198 / 82
Page Number 20

thank you Sablon, It could very well be him , I have no idea where he came from, If I could find a marraige for him , hopefully it would show his parents, This has been driving me nuts for ages .

jean

Hello again Jean.

I'm thinking, if that's them in America (and I think it is pretty hopeful), do you think that they actually got married? Janet Moore would probably still have been married to Allan until his death. Did his death certificate say "married to" or "formerly married to"? It could be that they just said they were married and that the marriage had taken place over here. (My granduncle did this in Australia because he was still married to the mother of his children who he had deserted here and wasn't free to marry.)

The other thing is that the poor relief application was made in 1911 so Charles and Janet were obviously living as husband and wife then.

So that 1911 Canadian census looks hopeful.

Good luck.

Hi Rootgatherer, I have P M'd you

Jean

Hello,
I wonder if I could ask for help again with these two ancestors.

I am still looking for Charles Knuckey and Jenny ( Janet ) .
Can't seem to find either of them on any passenger lists going to Canada or anywhere else for that matter.

I don't have full access to Ancestry ca so if some kind person who has could have a look for them I would be most grateful.

I may have another thread on them but I cannot seem to find it sorry.

Thanks again
jean

Jean

You need to add STILL LOOKING to your title..........or people opening this will see 2009 as posting date, and may not look further

Oops, thanks Reggie ,
I will do that

jean

Good luck...................

Cheers Reggie

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1901 census transcription details for: 2nd Royal Home Counties Reserve Regt S A Constabulary, Imperial Yeomanry, School Of Cooke, Salmanca Barracks Wellington Lines Within the Clea
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 613
Folio: 28
Page: 10
Reg. District: Farnham
Sub District: Aldershot
Parish: Aldershot (Hants)
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Aldershot St Michael
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Harrow Road, Aldershot (Hants)
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KNUCKEY, Charles Soldier Single M 20 1881 Acting Bombardier Royal Field
Lewis, Sussex

he is a chef in a hotel in the 1911.

***alviegal*** ,

Thank you for looking ,
This could be him , my problem is I know nothing about him only what is shown on the 1911 canadian census , it shows his occupation as chef , snap

regards
jean

As for Janet and Jessie, my hubbie's granny was Janet but was always known as Jenny.

Also from http://www.whatsinaname.net

In Scotland Jessie is the more usual pet name or synonym for Janet, but several correspondents [AB, JMcF, and others] have found cases in Scotland of a person known as Jennie having been baptised as Janet.

Another correspondent [JMacG], researching in Scotland, sent us a note concerning "... a legal document circa 1780 concerning a Janet, who undersigned Jennie".


Sorry must go out for a while. Will come back later.

Liz

Thanks for that info , I have heard about the different pet names , doesn't make it easy .

Just wondering how Janet and Charles got to Canada when i just cannot find them on any travel documents.

jean

Janet for reference in 1901. 1911 census says she travelled in 1903.

1901 census transcription details for: 101, Kirkland Street, Glasgow
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 644
Folio: 87
Page: 6
Reg. District: Kelvin
Sub District:
Parish: Glasgow
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Barony
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 101, Kirkland Street, Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MOORE, Margaret Head Widow F 55 1846
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
STEVENSON, Janet Daughter Married F 19 1882
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
MOORE, Robert Son Single M 17 1884 Labourer Wood Yard
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
MOORE, Leah Daughter Single F 15 1886 Domestic Servant (General)
Glasgow, Lanarkshire

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Thanks again Reggie,
no idea what i am doing .

Thank you ***alviegal*** for putting the census up .

That's Janet , also shows my grandad Robert,

regards
jean