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I know this is a very old email, but I have the Carter family tree that you were looking for back in 2008. If you are still interested I have a lot of information on both the Carter & Hammond family trees.

ok cheers

Colin ignore all other info till you get that marriage cert ok

then you will have fathers names


June x

nice one thanks alot

Found marriage

1938 dec qtr
Kitchener H Carter
Deben
vol 7a
page 3005

Winifred D Hammond


you need to order this marriage cert to get more info

deben is in Suffolk

June x

i know nothing on her sorry

Hi Colin do you know Winifred surname and when first child was born ?
then if we find marriage it might give us more info

if you tell us all you know please we might be able to help you

June x

carter

thanks so much any chance you can help on my nans side winifred.
so my grandads frist name was herbert?
so whos is my greatgrandads parents?

Kitchener Herbert Carter name on death cert so it looks like mother could of married again


June x

colin.
Is your grandfathers surname CARTER or KITCHENER.

richard.

Hi Colin Your grandfather is Herbert his mother and father are Louisa and Ernest on the 1901 census

then in 1891 Louisa is with her parents before marriage


June x

so who was my g grandad and who was he married to?
and is my gggrandad there to im all confused

Ernest was a Butchers Manager. They were living at The Green, Edmonton. Louisa was born St Lukes London.

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Ernest and Louisa in 1901:
1901 England Census
about Ernest W J Kitchener
Name: Ernest W J Kitchener
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen James 24
Alice M Kitchener 7 months
Ernest W J Kitchener 28
Louisa Kitchener 29

Two siblings for Herbert:

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Kitchener Norman Windard Edmonton 3a 1340

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
KITCHENER Molly L Windard Edmonton 3a 1204

There are quite a lot of Kitchener births in Edmonton before 1911 but the mother's maiden name wasn't recorded in the index until then so difficult to tell which are from your family.

looks like her in 1891

Name: Louisa Windard
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, London, England

Civil Parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Windard 21
Alice Windard 22
Ellen Windard 51
Frank Windard 28
Henry Windard 65
Louisa Windard 19


Name: Louisa Windard
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Holborn
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 673 (click to see others on page)




1901

Name: Louisa Kitchener
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Ernest W J
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, London, England

Civil Parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen James 24
Alice M Kitchener 7 months
Ernest W J Kitchener 28 Tottenham, Middlesex
Louisa Kitchener 29


June x

This looks like the marriage, quite a while before Herbert was born:

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)

Kitchener Ernest Walter J Edmonton 3a 783
Windard Louisa Edmonton 3a 783

The cert would give you their fathers' names and occupations and possible Ernest and Louisa's ages.

By the way, I found this on freebmd (www.freebmd.co.uk/) a website where you can search for births, marriages and deaths from 1837 until the 1920s.

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Kitchener Ernest Walter J Edmonton 3a 783

Windard Louisa Edmonton 3a 783



June x

This is your father's birth reg, so his mother's maiden name was Windard - the cert would give you his parent's first names.

Births Jun 1916 (97%)
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Kitchener Herbert W Windard Edmonton 3a 1253


So would finding their marriage reg - will see if I can find it.