Thank you all very much, your information is a great help. I had sent an Search Document to the MOD, Army Personal Centre in Glasgow in May 2021. A requested chq for 30GBP was sent on 26/10/21. On 22/02/22 I was advised by MOD that the department has been adversely affected by Covid, unfortunately the chq provided is now out of date. They went on to explain that they now have a massive backlog following several lockdowns. Interestingly someone attached a "post it note" to the application with the "correct" service number 1809900. Other priorities made me put it to one side A few days ago my wife mentioned her father, this prompted me to ask you for help as any information may help her to remember some small things with her Dementia. The dreaded "D" is taking up so much of my as I am sole carer. Can I discuss Y- 700 DNA with the Community, I have found matches in the USA but so far unable to link with my UK family ???? .
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1939 Register 12 James Road,Peasmarsh, Peasmarsh, Guildford R.D., Surrey, England
George C E D Holaway 30 Oct 1909 Male Heavy Lorry Driver (Refuse For) Married 73 1 Henrietta L Holdaway 01 Jan 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 73 2 Cecil A Harden 09 Mar 1912 Male Mate On Refuse Lorry Single 73 3
1921 Census Of England & Wales 61, Northend, Sutton Veny, Sutton Veney, Wiltshire, England Charles Harden Head Male 1878 43 Havant, Hampshire, England Shoeing & General Smith Government Road Board Southern Command Labourer Henrietta Harden Wife Female 1883 38 Shamley Green, Surrey, England Home Duties - Charles William Harden Son Male 1906 14 Havant, Hampshire, England Errand Boy Out Of Work Mr Whitmore Butcher Henrietta Lily Harden Daughter Female 1908 13 Havant, Hampshire, England - - Elsie Harden Daughter Female 1909 12 Havant, Hampshire, England - - Cecil Albert Harden Son Male 1912 9 Guildford, Surrey, England - - May Harden Daughter Female 1918 3 Sutton Veny, Wiltshire, England
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HARDEN, CECIL ALBERT BURNINGHAM GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in GUILDFORD Volume 02A Page 182
Deaths Mar 1971 (>99%) HARDEN Cecil Albert 9Mr1912 Surrey S W 5g 1209
Following-through on Cecil's family records online shows he is the correct one. In OP's tree with incorrect birth year...............
The earlier Attestation record to which I referred
First name(s) Cecil Albert Service number 1447640 Last name Harden Former service number - Birth year - Record set Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942 Birth place - Category Military, armed forces & conflict Age - Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Attestation year 1938 He left 3/6/39 as per Para 204(3) TA Regs
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On a side note, if you weren't already aware Is Cecil's father Charles and Mother Henrietta?? and he was born 9/3/12 ?? If so, Charles' WW1 record is available online Charles served with Royal Horse Artillery
So after 1920 a soldier should only have 1 service number. As ErikaH has posted there are two Cecil Albert Harden's listed
1809900 1447640
1447640 Entry reads 3.6.39 para 204 (3) TA regs A quick Google suggests para 204 relates to Discharge
Paragraph 3 would explain the specific reason for Discharge
Service numbers were block allocated, therefore 1400001-1842000 = Royal Garrison Artillery (The Long, Long Trail)
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Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942
First name(s) Cecil Albert Last name Harden Service number 1809900 Attestation year 1941 Royal Regiment of Artillery
Former service number - Birth year - Birth place - Category Military, armed forces & conflict Age - Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
******Entry in Transfers column reads- To Gloucesters 10/05/45 ********
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His Royal Artillery Attestation in 1941 is on FMP, confirming the Service Number
There is also an Attestation record dated 1938, with a different Service Number
NO other military info online
He was in Peasmarsh, Guildford on 1939 Register
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WW2 records are generally not online.
Have a read of this -
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-records-of-service
Be aware that they can take months to get to you.
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Would like to find service record for Cecil Albert HARDEN. Cecil is my wife's father he is thought to have served in the Welch Fusiliers during WW2 and believe his service number was 1809900. We do know he served sometime in Egypt as a Driver. Beyond that nothing is known. Thanks :-)
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