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David Anthony WILLIAMS and Thomas G WILLIAMS

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emma

emma Report 26 Aug 2018 09:35

Looking for these people, born 1920s-1930s in Merthyr, or relatives of.
They were born in Merthyr Tydfil - SONS of two brothers, Joseph Thomas Williams(b1903ish) and William John Williams (b. 1899) and mums both called Hannah (nee Jones and Rees). The brothers had 2 sisters who they last spoke to in 1950s. The brothers' father, Thomas, was killed in the steelworks in 1905 and their mum, Mary (nee Davies) died in 1918. David lived in Enfield at the time of his parent's death. One of the brothers was a filter assistant on the reservoir near Merthyr, the other was a fitter for ROF Bridgend in 1939. Would love to swap stories from the other side of the family.
If anyone could help as to where they might be, the family would be really pleased.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Aug 2018 09:59

You should be able to find their births on freebmd to establish a starting point

You could also look in members trees .which is under the search heading ,to see if anyone has any of the famly listed

If found you can try to make contact by sending a message via the find out more box

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Aug 2018 10:13

Looks like Thomas g was born earlier than you thought

1939 register


Williams Household (3 People)
19 Seward Street , Merthyr Tydfil C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
William J Williams 18 Dec 1899 Fitter Heating R O F Bridgend
Hannah Eliza Williams 06 Oct 1892 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Thomas G Williams 06 Feb 1925 At School
Ref: RG101/7276C/020/9 Letter Code:
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As Thomas is an open record then sadly he has passed away


Marriages Mar 1924
Jones Hannah E Williams Merthyr T. 11a 955
Williams William J Jones Merthyr T. 11a 955

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Aug 2018 10:40

Looks like David A was born 1938 Llanelly reg district

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 10:46

First name(s) Thomas Gordon
Last name Williams
Gender Male
Birth day 6
Birth month 2
Birth year 1925
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1993
District Bangor
District number 8411A
Register number 55
Entry number 073
Date of registration mm/yy 0793
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Aug 2018 10:53

If this is the family on the 1911 census then mum hasn't given a second name for Joseph

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
151 High Street Cefn Coed, Vaynor, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Mary Jane Williams Head Widow Female 38 1873 Glamorgan Merthyr Green Grocer Transcription
William John Williams Son - Male 11 1900 Breconshire Cefn - Transcription
Annie May Williams Daughter - Female 9 1902 Breconshire Cefn - Transcription
Joseph Williams Son - Male 7 1904 Breconshire Cefn - Transcription
Margaret Elizabeth Postumas Williams Daughter - Female. 5. 1906 Breconshire Cefn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Aug 2018 11:00

One closed record


Williams Household (3 People)
Glannant House , Brecknock R.D., Breconshire, Wales
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Joseph T Williams 08 Aug 1903 Filter Attendant Water Work
Hannah J Williams 07 Oct 1903 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Ref: RG101/7191E/002/22 Letter Code:
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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 11:02

1939

Name: Joseph T Williams
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1903
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Glennant House Curntaf
Residence Place: Brecknock, Breconshire, Wales
Occupation: Filter Attendant Water Wor??
Schedule Number: 6
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: XBBR
Registration district: 610 - 2
Inferred Spouse: Hannah J Williams
Household Members:
Name
Joseph T Williams
Hannah J Williams....born 7/10/1903

One closed record



Name: Joseph Thomas Williams
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1903
Registration Date: Jun 1977
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 27
Page: 0521

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 11:02

Can't see a marriage for Williams/Rees- was Hannah married before?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 11:04

First name(s) Hannah Jane
Last name Williams
Gender Female
Birth day 7
Birth month 10
Birth year 1903
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1980
District Merthyr Tydfil
County Glamorganshire
Volume 27
Page 0494
Country Wales



Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
Rees Hannah Jane Merthyr T. 11a 796

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Aug 2018 11:08

Marriages Sep 1925
Rees Hannah J Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1516a

Looks like her name was amended as this was the original entry

Jennie Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1516
WILLIAMS Joseph T Merthyr T 11a 1516

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 11:36

Thomas's mother

Name: Hannan Eliza Williams
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1892
Registration Date: Mar 1975
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 27
Page: 0462

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 11:41

You already have all the info posted on here - as per your tree on Ancestry

emma

emma Report 26 Aug 2018 15:12

Oh my goodness - thank you for all the responses! I am blown away. I didn't mean to mislead anyone - yes I do have a tree on Ancestry which I have worked on a bit recently.
But now I am stuck from 1939 onwards really. I have birth and death certificates from most of the family and found middle names from marriage certificates (the Thomas was a father's name so fitted).. I was looking for any children from David Anthony Williams marriage, as well as from Thomas G Williams'. - David was last seen on his dad's death certificate in 1980 as living in Enfield. Any ideas on how to progress from this point?
But really, thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2018 14:41

The informant's details on Thomas's death cert may prove helpful

Have you any reason to assume that either David or Thomas actually married?

emma

emma Report 28 Aug 2018 17:21

No reason to assume that they married, but ever hopeful that they did and the trail wont go completely cold. I guess I will find out next week on the death certificate. Thank you for answering.

emma

emma Report 30 Aug 2018 19:19

Thank you everyone. I found my relatives today - within 30mins of one emailing me (I Googled an unusual surname and emailed them first), the other was on the phone (I wrote to the neighbours of the last known address and he had moved next door, so he just rang me up!). Neither knew of each other's existence either. So happy. Thank you ErikaH for jolting my brain. It worked a treat.

:-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2018 20:37

Wonderful outcome. Delighted for you