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living descendants of Ada Amelia Hazel

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Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Aug 2017 12:36

Finally!

The marriage for Daisy to Lorn looks to be a mistranscription :-)

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Zorn Household (2 People)
32 Grosvenor Park , Southwark, London, England

Albert G Zorn 10 Feb 1908 Male Butcher Married 98 1
Daisy I Zorn 30 Jun 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 98 2



First name(s) DAISY IRENE
Last name ZORN
Gender Female
Birth day 27
Birth month 6
Birth year 1913
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1988
District Lambeth
Register number 788
County London
Volume 14
Page 59
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Collections from Great Britain, England

Daughter born 1943

pm sent with eroll address for daughter

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Aug 2017 21:24

I can see Daisy's marriage but no sign of the name after that :-|

denise

denise Report 22 Aug 2017 14:06

thank you just reading through them now

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Aug 2017 12:19

Denise Have sent a couple of messages with details of Ivy

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Aug 2017 11:57

Note the youngest Nelson//Hazel child born Wandsworth is also reg as Chapman, I won't put details as he is poss' still living, but you can see on freebmd.org.uk

Plus there is a possible Chapman/Hazel birth the following year.

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Aug 2017 11:46

First name(s) IVY A
Last name HAZEL
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1924
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ IVY A HAZEL married
Ernest V Nelson
Spouse's last name Nelson
District Southwark
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 210
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain, England

Possible 3 children ?

Possible remarriage for Ivy 1938

Marriages Dec 1938
Chapman Christopher G Nelson Wandsworth 1d 1126 Scan available -
Chapman Christopher G Hazel Wandsworth 1d 1126 Scan available -
Hazel Ivy A Chapman Wandsworth 1d
Nelson Ivy A Chapman Wandsworth 1d 1126

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Aug 2017 11:15

James born 1923 to Hazel/ Twitchin

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Hazel James G Twitchin Southwark 1d 214
Twitchin James G Twitchin Southwark 1d 214


also reg in name Twitchin so indicates no marriage


The marriage to Isabel Still 1935 is the couple on the 1939 reg, James born 1880. There is a "closed record" living with them so is possibly James G born 1923.

denise

denise Report 21 Aug 2017 23:41

i think that the james hazel marriage in 1935 was the son of james graham hazel and his second wife surname twitching in 1923 son james married isabel still in 1935 i think

denise

denise Report 21 Aug 2017 23:33

will read through this when i get home the royal marines is a yes as this is when Charles was conceived when james was away, blanche daisy and elsie are all correct Kate Emily was born 1904 Ivy amelia was born in 1906 Ena Gladys was born in 1907 Ada amela was born in 1904 all bermondsey Charlie edward was born in 1916

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 23:31

In light of the DOB on that record and occupation ( appears to have married 1935)

Hazel Household (3 People)
Ashdene Oxford Road , Rochford R.D., Essex, England

James G Hazel 04 Mar 1880 Male Steam Hot Water Fitter Heavy Worker Married 163 1
Isabella (Isabel) Hazel 17 Aug 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 163 2

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 23:13

EDIT not sure about this one? But it could well be as I'm not seeing a birth in England for James and this one is born Toronto Canada. 4th march 1880 occ fitter

Reference: ADM 159/119/404
Description:
Name Hazel, James Graham
Register Number: 404
Division: Royal Marines Divisional Engineers: Deal
When Enlisted/Date of Enlistment: 01 October 1914
Date of Birth: 04 March 1880
Date: [1914]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 22:47

Ada C B married Cunningham in 1924, there are 3 births likely to be to that marriage which you can find on freebmd.org.uk all in Lambeth

Ada Cunningham appears to have remarried 1962.

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 22:22

Likely to be this one, as she seems to have named her daughters after her sisters.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wolseley Model Dwelling, 179, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England


John Dean Head Married Male 52 1849 General Labourer Holborn, Middlesex, England Transcription
Harriett Dean Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Harriett Dean Daughter Single Female 20 1881 General Sert Domestic Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Ada Dean Daughter Single Female 19 1882 General Sert Domestic Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Kate Dean Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Silk Sorter Bermondsey, Surrey, England
James Dean Son - Male 14 1887 At Oil Shop "assistant" Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Blanch Dean Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Newington, London, England
William Dean Son - Male 12 1889 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Henry Dean Son - Male 9 1892 - Southwark, Surrey, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 22:19

Possible births for Ada Amelia, do you have the marriage cert for her father's name?

DEAN, ADA AMELIA SMITH Order
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 101

DEAN, ADA AMELIA ROBERTS Order
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 293

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 22:05

HAZEL, IVY AMELIA DEAN Order
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in ST OLAVE BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 243

Ivy with 2 of her sisters Ada and Ena in 1911 census

First name(s) Ivy
Last name Hazell
Relationship Patient
Sex Female
Occupation -
Age 5
Birth year 1906
Birth place London Bermondsey
Address Lower Road Rotherhithe Ldn S E
Parish Bermondsey
County London, Surrey
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district St Olave Bermondsey
Registration district number 24
Enumeration district 28
District number 28
Sub district Rotherhithe
Sub district number 3
Census reference RG14PN1941 RD24 SD3 ED28 SN1
RG78 code number 68
Piece number 1941

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Aug 2017 22:00

Denise you can search trees ( Search top of page) for the children's names.

Otherwise if you put the births on here someone wil try and help follow them forward,

Just for ref for idea of area I've looked up these 3 on the GRO as having middle names is useful


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HAZEL, BLANCHE LOUISA DEAN Order
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in ST. OLAVE (BERMONDSEY) Volume 01D Page 382
HAZEL, DAISY IRENE DEAN Order
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in ST. OLAVE (BERMONDSEY) Volume 01D Page 289
HAZEL, ELSIE MAY DEAN Order
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in ST. OLAVE (BERMONDSEY) Volume 01D Page 355

denise

denise Report 21 Aug 2017 21:50

I'm trying to find any living relatives of Ada Amelia Hazel(dean) born in 1884(not sure if date is correct ) she married in 1904 to a James graham hazel she had 8 children ada,kate,ivy,blanche,daisy,elsie,ena and a son charles, i have found marriages for all the children , I'm looking for there children the only one i have found is Jack bond he was the son of Blanche, I'm looking on behalf of my aunt who's farther was Charles Hazel he was put into care at the age of 7 as he was not the son of Jack ,all the girls were , my aunt knew nothing about his family until recent ally she was able to access his notes from Dr Barnardos orphanage, if any one can help with the living children ( her 1st and 2nd cousins) that would be great thank you in advance for your help.
Denise