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We have had contact from John's brother. John is alive & well in Stoke on Trent. Have made contact & just awaiting a response. Thanks to all for your input.

Message also sent re a possible probate record.

Sending by message a possible Facebook link to the son born 1953, friend's list has another link to family mentioned.

There is a missing spouse on one entry for the 1961 marriage, but there are two entries one has got misplaced in entries for Lichfield, but it is in Stoke, matching reg can be found on freebmd

John R Whitmore to Weaver
John R Harley to Weaver

first name Yvonne

John R on electoral rolls until 2014 so may still be at same location, Stoke

see http://www.britishphonebook.com/search.php?last=HARLEY&city=STOKE-ON-TRENT

Rushton Ronald Whitmore
WHITMORE Rita D RUSHTON

There is a death in 1963 but the birth year is 1929 so think they have opened up the 1939 reg for the wrong lady

Edited because Rita is on the electoral rolls to 2014 stil in stoke on Trent wth Ronald

According to www.192 they are still a the same address in2017


Not seeing a death for Mabel whitmore or Mabel Harley but she is an open record

1939 reg



Whitmore Household (2 People)
56 East View , Stoke-on-Trent C.B., Staffordshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Mabel Whitmore 09 Oct 1913 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Rita (D) Rushton (Whitmore) 23 Nov 1933 At School
Ref: RG101/5283D/002/20 Letter Code: ONCE
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Yes there is a sister born in 1949 whitmore /day who is also reg as Harley

Plus a son born in 1953 same type of reg. all Stoke reg district

Take a look on freebmd

Not seeing a death for her

As for the other name maybe she lived with a Mr Harley and they were known as that surname too

As far as we know he stayed with his mother.

What makes you think he may have used another surname? His mother never remarried. Family lore indicates she did have another relationship which resulted in a child but that child was named as a Whitmore.

Yes Mabel was born in 1913.

Did he stay with his Mother, or Father, or was he adopted?

Have you looked to see if he is in anyone's tree on here?

There is a marriage for a John R Whitmore in Stoke in 1961, which may be worth investigating. He may have also used the surname Harley.

Was Mabel E Day born in 1913?

I'm trying to locate the son of Ernest Whitmore & Mabel Day. John Raymond was born in Stoke on Trent in 1940. His parents separated sometime after his birth. He has an older sister, Rita Doris, who he may not have seen for many years. My mother is John's cousin.