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James BROWN

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Alexander

Alexander Report 11 Jan 2017 15:48

Hello all,
I am trying to find the above, he was born 26/03/1906 in Glasgow, Scotland, emmigrated to Canada in 1929, later to USA ( New York ) by 1935, and became an American in 1940, at this point the trail goes cold, hope someone can help.
Regards,
Alex.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jan 2017 16:42

Unfortunately, it's unlikely that anyone will be able to help with this, Alex.

James Brown is such a common name - there are lots of them!
I can't see the death of any James Brown with that DOB.

Presumably you found him on the US census of 1935? I don't see any census record for any James Brown with exactly those years of birth and arrival.

Can you copy/paste it here, please, for our reference?

Did he emigrate alone, or with any family members?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Jan 2017 17:09

???


First name(s) JAMES
Last name BROWN
Gender Male
Age 23
Birth year 1906
Occupation PLATER
Departure year 1929
Departure day 30
Departure month 8
Departure port GLASGOW
Destination port QUEBEC
Destination QUEBEC
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name MELITA
Ship official number 136367
Ship master's first name A
Ship master's last name STEWART
Shipping line CANADIAN PACIFIC
City GLASGOW
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 9785
Ship registered tonnage 6353
Number of passengers 480

Home address 29 Rosevale St Glasgow occ Plater

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 11 Jan 2017 17:52

In 1935 he was nearly 30; was he married and did he have children?

Always best to offer *all* the information you have -- otherwise people are working with less than what you know, which is kind of pointless, and searching for things you already have.

Here: the exact info for him in 1935: what record it is, where it was found, what all the details in it are.

There was no national US census in 1935 and there doesn't seem to have been a NY state census that year, so we are in the dark.

He took US citizenship in 1940; is he in the 1940 census?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 11 Jan 2017 18:13

That dob is very close ... but there are dozens of James Browns born 1906 in the Social Security death index ...

EDIT: the James Brown 1906 death posted, now deleted, ruled out:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=16142282

In Louisiana in 1940 with wife Lucy.

Alexander

Alexander Report 11 Jan 2017 18:47

Thanks All,
I have a copy of his entry on the 1940 USA Census, his occupation was " Handyman ", He sailed on the " Melita " from Greenock on 31/5/1929, arriving Montreal 8/6/1929 and staying with his uncle James ARMSTRONG.
As of 1940 he was single, if anyone wants a copy of my Browns just drop me a line to [email protected]

Yet again many thanks to all who have replied , I will read them and and be back !
Regards,
Alex

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 11 Jan 2017 19:49

the one I had suspected in 1940:

Name: James Brown
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: 1907
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Scotland
> Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Home in 1940: New York, Queens, New York ['Queens' is Queens County]
Street: Steinway Street
House Number: 2541
Inferred Residence in 1935: Scranton, Lockswanta, Pennsylvania
Residence in 1935: Scranton,Lockswanta,Pennsylvania
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Having first papers
Sheet Number: 12B
Occupation: Handy Man

(oops, I first copied the wrong one; fixed)


so that gives us the information you haven't, specifically: WHERE he was.

How are you sure that this was your James?

(your James would actually have turned 34 by census night, and this James was in Pennsylvania in 1935 - have I got the one you were referring to? why not give us the details requested?)



We now have in the thread:
EDIT - phew, all the extraneous stuff in the thread now deleted :-)

(But Alex, you see why giving all the info you have spares needless searching and finding of non-matching records.)



Alex, everybody here is just other members of the site who reply to messages here to help out, with the records we have access to, etc.

We are not related to, or personally interested in, your Browns. If you'd like this kind of help, just give the relevant info in the thread here.

It is not likely, to the point of just about zero probability, that anyone actually related will see your message. But in case that happens in future, be sure to keep an up to date email address in your account here, and click 'Watch this' at the top of the thread. That is the only way you will be notified of private messages or replies.

Meanwhile, you need to delete your email address from your post, or someone will report it for violating the rule against that, and that entire message will disappear. (It is never wise to post an email address on line, but in this case, management does not want people to be able to contact posters without taking out a subscription.)


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jan 2017 20:32

Yes, JC - that James in Steinway Street is the one Alex thinks is his - he's PM'd me (and probably you too) a scan of the census form.


There were several James Browns in Scranton in 1930 - but none born in Scotland (of approx. the right age).
All born in Pennsylvania.

Although of course Alex isn't saying he was there then - just in 1935, which info presumably came from the 1940 census. Which may or may not be the right James!

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 11 Jan 2017 23:58

Nope, no PMs for me. :-)
(I've seen the census image at Ancestry)


We need to know what Alex's connection to James Brown is, how he even knows that 'his' James Brown emigrated, how he knows that he went from Canada to the US, etc. etc.

Any searching without knowing what is *actually known* about this man (and not surmised) is really not productive.