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Hi all my Grandfather Derek Robin Wright will be 80 in a couple of days. Im trying to track down his side of our family tree which is a massive mystery to all of us. He was born 20th March 1935 in Surrey South Western.

When he was little his father Harry Wright passed away. Harry was from Surrey England. My grandfathers mother Betty Woodhams (maiden name) apparently remarried not sure who . Betty is related to Albert Woodhams who married Mary Margaret Robinson who daughter Cecilia Woodhams moved to Australia with her husband William Cleave

Can anyone help me and guide me in the right direction please or maybe you know of someone whose related (yeh yeh I know a long shot but it's worth a try).

Many thanks All

Monica

If you look on FreeBMD, there's no middle name for Derek:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Are you sure it was Betty and not Bessie Woodhams?

There's this marriage:

Marriages Dec 1928
Woodhams Bessie Wright Guildford 2a 300
Wright Harry Woodkans Guildford 2a 300

Rose

Bessie's birth?

Births Mar 1905
Woodhams Bessie Guildford 2a 91

Rose

Looks to be Mary MABEL Robinson:

Marriages Dec 1910
Robinson Mary Mabel Lambeth 1d 597 Scan available - click to view
Woodhams Albert Lambeth 1d 597

Rose

Look on FreeBMD for Woodhams births with Robinson as the mother's maiden name.

Marriages Dec 1944
CLEAVE William R Woodhams Bodmin 5c 134
WOODHAMS Cecilia Cleave Bodmin 5c 134

I see one son born in the UK to this couple.

Rose

Cecilia's death?

Surname Given Names Notice Type Date Type Age Other Details Publication Published
CLEAVE Cecilia Funeral notice 14JAN2013 Funeral late of Midland, formerly of Gidgegannup The West Australian 21JAN2013

from http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

Rose

Hi yes

Celilia and William are both deceased and so is their son Geoffery Cleave.

After posting this I found that her correct name was in fact Bessie Woodhams .

I couldnt get that FREE BMD site to work :( was very annoying

Many thanks for all your help :)

The marriage that Rose posted



Name:Albert Woodhams <<Widower (gamekeeper) Address: 2 West Horsle, Leatherhead, Surrey

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872

Age:38

Spouse:Mary Margaret Robinson <<Spinster (domestic servant) Address: 34 Langton Road

Spouse Age:24

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:25 Dec 1910

Parish:St John the Divine, Kennington

Borough:Lambeth

Father Name:Richard Woodhams <<Bricklayer

Spouse Father:Henry Charles Robinson <<Painter

Register Type:Parish Register

Wit: Walter & W Smith

????
So Bessie is Albert's daughter.

West Horsley is in Guildford registration district.

Bessie Woodhams

in the 1911 England Census
Name: Bessie Woodhams
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Daughter (Child)
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Horsley, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Ockham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Blackmore Heath Cottages, Ockham Ripley Woking, Surrey
Occupation: School
Registration district: Guildford
Registration District Number: 33
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5-6
Household schedule number: 3 B
Piece: 3057
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Woodhams 38
Mary Woodhams 24 - born Battersea
Bessie Woodhams 6

Source Citation
Class: RG14; Piece: 3057; Schedule Number: 3 B
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

Albert with first wife:

Albert Woodhams
in the 1901 England Census

Name: Albert Woodhams
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Edith D Woodhams
Birth Place: West Horsley, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: West Horsley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Albury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 601
Folio: 64
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Woodhams 28
Edith D Woodhams 28



And Edith's death????? I know the middle initial is different:

Deaths Sep 1909 (>99%)
WOODHAMS Edith Alice 36 Edmonton 3a 202

Edith and Albert's marriage, so the middle initial in 1901 census has been mistranscribed:

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)

Draper Edith Alice Guildford 2a 145
Woodhams Albert Guildford 2a 145

Albert & parents:

Albert Woodhams
in the 1891 England Census

Name: Albert Woodhams
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's name: Richard Woodhams
Mother's name: Ellen Woodhams
Gender: Male
Where born: West Horsley, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: West Horsley
Ecclesiastical parish: West Horsley
Town: West Horsley
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Guildford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 558
Folio: 63
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Woodhams 44
Ellen Woodhams 50
Albert Woodhams 17

Mary's birth:

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
Robinson Mary Margaret Wandsworth 1d 681

I can't see her in censuses with a father Henry Charles.

For further details on that birth



Name:Mary Margaret Robinson

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:8 Aug 1886

Father's name:Henry Charles Robinson

Mother's name:Mary Margaret Robinson

Parish or Poor Law Union:Southwark St Jude

Borough:Southwark

Register Type:Parish Registers

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They were cutting that fine!



Name:Henry Charles Robinson

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1854

Age:32

Spouse:Mary Margaret Thomas

Spouse Age:21

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:4 Apr 1886

Parish:St Jude, Southwark

Borough:Southwark

Father Name:James Robinson

Spouse Father:Richard Thomas

Register Type:Parish Register

I wondered if this might be Henry Charles - he's a house painter - but it says he's single:

Henry Robinson
in the 1891 England Census

Name: Henry Robinson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, London, England
Civil Parish: Tooting Graveney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 460
Folio: 57
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
James Nixon 77
Arthur Nixon 41
Edwin Nixon 33
Ellen J Nixon 39
Henry Robinson 37
John R Nixon 4
Florence M Purchase 34

???? Maybe ???
One of many children at a house called The Creche, 24 & 26 Stepney Causeway:

Mary Margeret Robinson
in the 1891 England Census

Name: Mary Margeret Robinson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Gender: Female
Where born: N
Civil Parish: Ratcliff
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Thomas
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Stepney
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 293
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Margeret Robinson 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

(and many others)



The Creche:
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MarieHilton/