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ruth jones
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 12:59 |
Ruth Jones who married lyon has the exact date of birth as my grandmothers mum . It even tells Me this on the death certificate I have for Ruth lyon . |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 13:05 |
Also I have seen the marriage to Henry online and it fits Ruth Jones perfectly from the census information I have . |
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Jacqueline | Report | 28 Jan 2015 13:18 |
Seeing a marriage record is not the same as having the cert |
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Jacqueline | Report | 28 Jan 2015 13:24 |
If Ruth left her husband LYON, and then put her daughter by JAMES in a home, how is it that RIchard LYON was the informant on what you think is this person's death? |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 13:33 |
I don't have all the answers . Hence why I am on here trying to make sense of it all . |
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Jacqueline | Report | 28 Jan 2015 13:36 |
I didn't know you'd seen the cert image. Apologies |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 13:47 |
Like I say I don't have all the answers . I am just trying to piece together what happened and try and move forwards to find living ancestors . |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 14:05 |
Also a possibility is that she left her baby daughter Ruth with Ernest and his mother . My nan was 5 when she was put into the first home . Then when she was 8 she was transferred to fazackerly homes and we received a letter from liverpool city council in 2002 stating Annie james as her mum .. But Annie james was Ernest's mum . And the address for his mum was in liverpool . The adress was a upholster shop and Ernest's dad was an upholsterer before he died . I think she was most likely put in the home as Ernest's mum would of been in her 60's when my nan was 5 and maybe her health wasn't so good . |
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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! | Report | 28 Jan 2015 16:48 |
You're assuming the birth cert for a Ruth Jones is the correct one. How do you know it is? Do you know how many Ruth Jones there were? |
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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! | Report | 28 Jan 2015 16:51 |
It's possible Ernest died in the war. |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 18:09 |
I Am presuming birkenhead gave us the right birth certificate and we have tried tracing Ernest in ww1 as I know that's a possibility . I know there weren't any Ruth Annie Jones in the area at that time which is what she put her name as on her marriage to Ernest . |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 28 Jan 2015 19:17 |
if you don't understand why Jacqueline was not a happy bunny, it is because you have run two threads about slightly different aspects of the exact same thing which is against the guidelines because people duplicate effort ... and now it is discouraging for anyone who wants to figure out what has been researched, what has been discarded ... |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 28 Jan 2015 19:44 |
for our info, this is the Ruth Jones who married Lyons, I believe? in 1911 |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 19:55 |
I don't think I get exactly what your saying but I do know what you mean about Ruth Jones and Henry lyon living a normal life . |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 28 Jan 2015 20:03 |
are the dads names and occupations the same on BOTH marriage certs? |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 28 Jan 2015 20:06 |
Sharon, the only reason you have that Ruth Jones birth certificate is that it matches the birthdate for Ruth Lyons on her death |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 20:30 |
Thank you I do understand what you are saying now thank goodness . And no they didn't find the birth certificate based on Ruth Lyons death . We obtained the birth certificate in 2002 and I only got Ruth Lyons death certificate last week . |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 28 Jan 2015 20:41 |
just for our info this is Ernest in 1911 |
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Sharon | Report | 28 Jan 2015 21:51 |
I know that she was placed in the first home in 1921 and moved to a different children's home in 1925 . My nan remembered her mother visiting her in the first home on regular occasions . On the last visit she was told by the nuns that Her mother was very ill and she wouldn't be seeing her again and on that visit her mum brought her a lovely doll . She never saw her mum again . And she was transferred to fazackerly because you could only stay at olive mount until you was 8 years old . Then from fazackerly lots of children were adopted ..mainly overseas but my nan wasn't and got fostered out at the age of 11 where she remained till she was 16 and made Her own way in life . She always wondered whether she had any brothers or sisters . |
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Jacqueline | Report | 29 Jan 2015 11:02 |
Referring back to the marriage info posted by Rose |
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