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Elizabeth
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30 Mar 2014 05:40 |
I am searching for Descendants of Walter and Dorothy Wiseman or his sibling Jack. Parents Frederick Charles and Charlotte Rose Wiseman of Birmingham
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Mar 2014 07:30 |
Try looking on search trees to see if anyone has them in their tree .you can then try to contact them through the find out more box
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 08:27 |
Are these people in your tree on here - as I cannot see Frederick Wiseman, Birmingham in your name?
Could you give an indication of birth year?
Thank-you
Added: Is this Charlotte? Charlotte R Wiseman Birth Date: abt 1868 Date of Registration: Dec 1928 Age at Death: 60 Registration district: Birmingham South Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 43
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Mar 2014 08:55 |
When did they marry as he. Is still single in 1901 Name: Frederick C Wiseman Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Manor Ecclesiastical parish: Aston by Birmingham St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
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View image Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Aston Manor ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2888 Folio: 38 Page Number: 9 Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Frederick C Wiseman 38 James W Langley 31 boarder
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2888; Folio: 38; Page: 9.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Mar 2014 08:56 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: WISEMAN, Charles Address: 3 Blackford Road Sparkhill Birmingham WISEMAN, Charles Head Married M 42 1869 Tailors Cutter Staffordshire Handsworth VIEW WISEMAN, Charlotte Wife Married F 43 1868 Staffordshire Handsworth VIEW WISEMAN, Lottie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Lancs Southport VIEW WISEMAN, Frank Son M 14 1897 Printer Warwick Bham VIEW WISEMAN, Jack Son M 9 1902 Warwick Bham VIEW WISEMAN, Walter Son M 5 1906 Warwick Bham VIEW WISEMAN Son M 0 (4 DAYS) 1911 Worcestershire Yardley VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18679 Reference: RG14PN18679 RG78PN1115 RD392 SD1 ED41 SN246 Registration District: Solihull Sub District: Solihull Enumeration District: 41 Parish: Yardley Address: 3 Blackford Road Sparkhill Birmingham County: Warwickshire (6 children born, 5 living, 1 had died)
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Charles Frederick Wiseman Name:Charles Frederick Wiseman Probate Date:28 Nov 1919 Death Date:3 Oct 1919 Death Place:Birmingham, West Midlands, England Registry:Birmingham, England
Tailor....Of 35 Springfield Road, Mosely, Birmingham.
To Charlotte Rose Wiseman....widow.
Effects: £33 12s
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Walter Wiseman Name:Walter Wiseman Spouse Name: Dorothy J Wetton Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1931 Registration district:Birmingham South Inferred County:Warwickshire Volume Number:6d Page Number:567
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Walter Wiseman Name:Walter Wiseman Birth Date:30 Nov 1905 Date of Registration:Dec 1987 Age at Death:82 Registration district: South Warwickshire Inferred County:Warwickshire Volume:31 Page:436
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 09:01 |
Dorothy?
Births Jun 1911 Wetton Dorothy J Aston 6d 244
(In someone's tree on here).
Dorothy Josephine Wiseman Birth Date: 21 Apr 1911 Date of Registration: Dec 1993 Age at Death: 82 Registration district: South Warwickshire Inferred County: Warwickshire Register Number: 13C District and Subdistrict: 7733 Entry Number: 296
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Mar 2014 09:02 |
This looks more like them
1911 England Census about Charles Wiseman Name: Charles Wiseman Age in 1911: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Handsworth, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Yardley County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 3 Blackford Rd Sparkhill Marital Status: Married Occupation: Tailors Cutter Registration district: Solihull Registration District Number: 392 Sub-registration district: Solihull ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Piece: 18679 Household Members: Name Age Charles Wiseman 42 Charlotte Wiseman 43 Lottie Wiseman 20 Frank Wiseman 14 Jack Wiseman 9 Walter Wiseman 5 Son aged 4 days
Married 21 years 6 children born 5 still living
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PricklyHolly
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30 Mar 2014 09:06 |
One Wiseman/Wetton birth showing in 1937.
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 09:06 |
One child showing on free bmd.
Does not seem to be in anyone's tree on here.
Death certificates for names of informants could be useful.
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ErikaH
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30 Mar 2014 09:06 |
Elizabeth
You have given no date info...........and haven't told us how much research you have done yourself.
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 09:15 |
Is Jack his actual name, or was he John?
have you found his birth on free bmd?
I think you need his birth certificate if you have just taken his name from the census.
This does not look like your Jack, but the only one for the 'correct' area Births Jun 1917 Wiseman Jack F Moore Aston 6d 588
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PricklyHolly
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30 Mar 2014 09:20 |
I think "Jack" must be a shortened name for something else.
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 09:25 |
If correct family in 1911, they are in Solihull, so Walter? Births Mar 1906 Wiseman Walter Solihull 6d 639 but older siblings elsewhere?
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 09:27 |
This might be Frank from the 1911 census:
Births Sep 1896 Wiseman Francis Frederick Birmingham 6d 205
to support the suggestion that Jack is not his birth name.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Mar 2014 09:36 |
Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912 about Francis Frederick Wiseman Name:Francis Frederick Wiseman Baptism Date:19 Aug 1896 Baptism Place:Winson Green, St Cuthbert, Warwickshire, England Father:Charles Frederick Wiseman (Tailor) 19 Chikwell??? Road Mother:Charlotte Rose Wiseman Reference Number:DRO 22 Archive Roll:602
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Frank Wiseman Name:Frank Wiseman Birth Place:Soho, Warwicks Death Date:19 Apr 1918 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Birmingham Rank:Private Regiment:Coldstream Guards Number:21301 Type of Casualty:Died of wounds Theatre of War:Western European Theatre
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patchem
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30 Mar 2014 10:03 |
If he was definitely born in Soho, it is about B66 2LR and Winson Green/Smethwick area.
Added: Sorry, was thinking Jack was Frank - so still need Jack's birth.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Mar 2014 10:18 |
I might be clutching at straws here........but there is a birth for a William Henry Wiseman who does not appear on the 1911 census.......
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Henry Wiseman Name:William Henry Wiseman Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1902 Registration district:Birmingham Inferred County:Warwickshire Volume:6d Page:79
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William H Wiseman Name:William H Wiseman Birth Date:abt 1902 Date of Registration:Mar 1921 Age at Death:19 Registration district:Southampton Inferred County:Hampshire Volume:2c Page:37
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PricklyHolly
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30 Mar 2014 12:36 |
Probably the son aged 4 days old on the 1911 census...
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Alfred Wiseman Name:Alfred Wiseman Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1911 Registration district:Solihull Inferred County:Warwickshire Volume:6d Page:628
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Alfred Wiseman Name:Alfred Wiseman Birth Date:29 Mar 1911 Date of Registration:Feb 1989 Age at Death:77 Registration district:Birmingham Inferred County:Warwickshire Volume:32 Page:1014
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